From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [mange@freemail.hu: grep-tree doesn't shell-quote-argument] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:41:36 +0200 Message-ID: <8564l1ok8v.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1145715130 29119 80.91.229.2 (22 Apr 2006 14:12:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mange@freemail.hu, emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 22 16:12:08 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FXIqC-0007Ty-0E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:12:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FXIqB-0004wH-Bi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:12:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FXIpX-0004Te-Ec for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:11:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FXIpW-0004Se-OB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:11:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FXIpW-0004ST-K2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:11:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FXIrJ-0001C2-W9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:13:14 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FXIpN-0004DJ-Mw; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:11:14 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id E53C31CFF986; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:41:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 22 Apr 2006 08:03:30 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:53234 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Below is a patch which merges grep-tree into grep-find, with > the new grep-tree interface as the default API, while a C-u > prefix requests using the old grep-find interface. > > That makes it an incompatible change. Yes, intendedly so. > grep-find has existed since years ago; grep-tree is new. > > We could avoid that incompatible change by making grep-find > with C-u implement the grep-tree behavior. > > Is there some specific reason you propose the incompatible way? It's the more beginner-friendly version. The old variant is the "specialist" version which you'd use if you need full control. Using C-u to demand the easier variant seems like a backward way of using a prefix argument. The price is an incompatibility in the default user interface to previous versions. Personally, I consider it an improvement. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum