From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Semi-unhelpful error message given when trying to (provide 'CUA-mode) Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:57:32 +0200 Message-ID: <8564jy3y5f.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <85fyj4bl8p.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20060520.211854.71848142.wl@gnu.org> <85lkswa29b.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <44701B91.60606@swipnet.se> <85wtcfbt3n.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <4470A6DB.3020504@swipnet.se> <85d5e79ipp.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <4470EF05.5070408@student.lu.se> <44715134.7050803@swipnet.se> <44717C21.1040600@student.lu.se> <447188A6.7000608@swipnet.se> <447190AF.6020109@student.lu.se> <4471B380.3060401@student.lu.se> <85ac9a5i29.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <4471BD7C.5030608@student.lu.se> <85mzda420k.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <4471C03A.8090607@student.lu.se> <85ejym4178.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <4471C388.4000506@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1148309920 17074 80.91.229.2 (22 May 2006 14:58:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 14:58:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Kim F. Storm" , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 22 16:58:35 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FiBrJ-0007fT-Uh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 16:58:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FiBrJ-0006LM-Iz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:58:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FiBr6-0006Ky-6K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:58:00 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FiBr5-0006Km-Q3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:57:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FiBr5-0006Kj-Jt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:57:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FiBv6-00083q-97 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 11:02:08 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FiBr3-0006Oi-U9; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:57:58 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id F3ED91C27933; Mon, 22 May 2006 16:57:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Lennart Borgman In-Reply-To: <4471C388.4000506@student.lu.se> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Mon, 22 May 2006 15:58:32 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:55053 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > David Kastrup wrote: >>> Hm. What is your goal then? >>> >> >> Improve Emacs. If it attracts more users as a consequence, that's >> not harmful in itself, but it is a sideeffect. Making Emacs less >> usable for some purported shortterm increase in user numbers is a >> dead end. > > I see. There is nothing wrong with your goal in my opinion, but the > challenge in my opinion is trying to do both things. Maybe that is > in line with your long term goals too? I have enough challenges without tackling pointless ones. I recommend Emacs when I consider it the best solution to a problem, not because I would derive pleasure from anybody using it. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum