From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: Emacs-Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Info tutorial is out of date
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 08:23:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8564hy5aq6.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EIENLHALHGIMHGDOLMIMMEKOCJAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:41:22 -0700")
"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
> `n' and `p' are not shortcuts - they're the prime method of
> using the functions. Rather, the mouse equivalents should be
> regarded as ambages.
>
> Another in the Mouseless-That-Roared camp, eh? A small, but very
> vocal and militant minority, apparently.
It does not give you any thoughts that from your "majority", you are
the only one to speak up?
> The point is that we do not *have* to teach people how to get to
> next and previous nodes (provided they have a mouse, which most
> users do [OUCH!]). That is advertised at the top of the buffer with
> big blazing buttons. It's just, well, brain-dead obvious. If you
> blindfold yourself, then you might need a tutorial to help you get
> through the living room, but if you turn `blindfold-mode' OFF... it
> hurts a lot less.
>
> We certainly don't need to spend the first several minutes of the
> tutorial on `n' and `p', even for the mouseless. For the moused, we
> can teach `n' and `p' later, after they know what Info is all
> about. (Hint: it is not about `n' or `p'; it has something to do
> with finding `Info'rmation.)
The mouse can only be used for the most important functions as a
fallback. It does not make sense in a tutorial to focus on the less
important functions first.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-16 6:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-15 14:44 Info tutorial is out of date Drew Adams
2006-07-15 15:04 ` David Kastrup
2006-07-15 17:07 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-16 6:25 ` Richard Stallman
2006-07-16 17:33 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-16 18:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-17 16:06 ` Richard Stallman
2006-07-20 19:03 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-07-20 23:10 ` Miles Bader
2006-07-21 1:11 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-07-15 17:46 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2006-07-15 23:41 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-16 8:29 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2006-07-16 17:33 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-16 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-16 18:51 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2006-07-15 22:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-07-15 22:56 ` martin rudalics
2006-07-15 23:41 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-15 23:41 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-16 0:26 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-16 6:23 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2006-07-16 17:33 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-16 17:49 ` David Kastrup
2006-07-20 19:03 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-07-16 18:42 ` Jay Belanger
2006-07-16 19:24 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-07-16 20:13 ` Jay Belanger
2006-07-16 20:28 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-07-20 19:03 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-07-20 19:35 ` Jay Belanger
2006-07-16 22:16 ` Mathias Dahl
2006-07-17 3:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-07-17 3:54 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-07-17 5:07 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-07-17 5:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-17 16:54 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-17 19:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-17 23:01 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-18 3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-18 4:37 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-18 19:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-18 22:19 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-19 3:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-17 16:37 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-17 19:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-17 23:01 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-18 3:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-18 4:37 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-18 19:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-18 22:19 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-19 3:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-18 13:37 ` Richard Stallman
2006-07-18 0:13 ` Richard Stallman
2006-07-18 4:40 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-07-18 5:03 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-18 15:00 ` Richard Stallman
2006-07-17 4:20 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-07-18 2:03 ` Miles Bader
2006-07-18 14:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-07-19 3:18 ` Miles Bader
2006-07-17 16:06 ` Richard Stallman
2006-07-17 16:37 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-17 17:03 ` Jay Belanger
2006-07-17 17:11 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-17 19:01 ` Jay Belanger
2006-07-17 23:01 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-17 13:21 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-07-17 16:37 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-20 19:03 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-07-20 22:41 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <87k66devap.fsf_-_@hans.local.net>
2006-07-16 20:28 ` Info tutorial is out of date; mouse usage David Kastrup
2006-07-16 21:13 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-16 9:08 ` Info tutorial is out of date Alan Mackenzie
2006-07-16 17:33 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-16 18:44 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2006-07-16 22:28 ` Mathias Dahl
2006-07-16 23:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-07-16 22:57 ` Mathias Dahl
2006-07-17 1:07 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-17 9:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-07-17 12:49 ` Robert J. Chassell
2006-07-17 8:19 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-07-18 2:29 ` Miles Bader
2006-07-18 4:37 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-18 7:03 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2006-07-18 15:00 ` "shortcut" Richard Stallman
2006-07-19 3:35 ` Info tutorial is out of date Miles Bader
2006-07-17 1:40 ` Richard Stallman
2006-07-17 2:16 ` Jay Belanger
2006-07-17 9:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-07-17 12:25 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-07-17 14:37 ` Mathias Dahl
2006-07-17 14:41 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-07-17 16:37 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-17 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-17 23:01 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-18 9:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-07-18 15:28 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-18 16:57 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2006-07-18 17:39 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-18 19:06 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2006-07-18 17:34 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2006-07-17 16:37 ` Drew Adams
2006-07-19 2:23 ` Brad Collins
2006-07-19 9:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-07-19 14:38 ` Richard Stallman
2006-07-17 12:48 ` Robert J. Chassell
2006-07-18 0:12 ` Richard Stallman
2006-07-18 13:39 ` David Hansen
2006-07-16 2:16 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2006-07-16 17:30 ` Richard Stallman
2006-07-16 6:25 ` Richard Stallman
2006-07-16 17:33 ` Drew Adams
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