From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scratch buffer annoyance Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 01:53:14 +0200 Message-ID: <85643ppor9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <85ejinrqgk.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <35917.128.165.123.18.1185998078.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <85vebzq7vd.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87odhqethv.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87zm18v7ug.fsf@jurta.org> <85abt7kck1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87hcndc3zc.fsf@jurta.org> <87643pbqjq.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1186617234 25681 80.91.229.12 (8 Aug 2007 23:53:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 23:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 09 01:53:51 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IIvLa-0000iR-SR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 01:53:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IIvLa-00050f-GF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:53:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IIvL7-0004Yp-OP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:53:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IIvL6-0004X1-0N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:53:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IIvL5-0004Wu-Sp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:53:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-07.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.47]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IIvL3-0001QR-Ge; Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:53:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.17]) by mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27E924B09C; Thu, 9 Aug 2007 01:53:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-10.arcor-online.net (mail-in-10.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.50]) by mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38032DAC94; Thu, 9 Aug 2007 01:53:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-025-080.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.25.80]) by mail-in-10.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0D72351A6; Thu, 9 Aug 2007 01:53:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 05E011C3C79D; Thu, 9 Aug 2007 01:53:15 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87643pbqjq.fsf@jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Thu\, 09 Aug 2007 01\:59\:17 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.1/3902/Thu Aug 9 00:36:14 2007 on mail-in-10.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:76214 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: >> It is very useful to create a *scratch* buffer at startup, even if it is >> not displayed immediately. >> >> Why do you find it particularly useful? > > Emacs without a *scratch* buffer is not Emacs :-) > >> Perhaps, a better name is `initial-display'? >> >> That seems a little less clear than `initial-buffer-contents'. >> However, perhaps `initial-buffer-setup' is better. > > With a new naming scheme David proposed this name could be > `setup-initial-buffer'. Don't put schemes into my mouth. I seem to remember that my proposition boiled down to `startup-*', where the details about * were still fuzzy, so feel free to start expanding form there. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum