From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Folding emacsclient into emacs Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:32:44 +0200 Message-ID: <85642b9iar.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87ir6gtx7w.fsf_-_@olgas.newt.com> <85bqc7hfau.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <868x79slkb.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <857imscvzn.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189927983 32571 80.91.229.12 (16 Sep 2007 07:33:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 07:33:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Devel To: dhruva Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 16 09:33:00 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IWoci-0000XF-QT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:32:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IWoch-0007HA-Nv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:32:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IWocd-0007GP-Ou for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:32:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IWocc-0007Es-8r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:32:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IWocb-0007Eh-VX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:32:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-01.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.41]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IWocb-0008WQ-GL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:32:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-09-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-09-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.21]) by mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D0B15BD36; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:32:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-13.arcor-online.net (mail-in-13.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.53]) by mail-in-09-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A3C28EBD3; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:32:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-028-166.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.28.166]) by mail-in-13.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F6022D164; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:32:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id EB7F91C0024C; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:32:44 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (dhruva's message of "Sun\, 16 Sep 2007 09\:38\:54 +0530") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4288/Sun Sep 16 07:22:35 2007 on mail-in-13.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79021 Archived-At: dhruva writes: > Hi, > These are my personal views with my current/limited understanding of > the whole topic.The simplest way to handle all camps is to show the > splash screen is handle the following possibilities: > > 1. if the user does not have a dot emacs (here we assume a seasoned > emacs user will have a dot emacs). > 2. If the user has a dot emacs interpret it: > a. If there is an explicit statement to hide the startup splash screen, > honor it. > b. Check the time stamp of the dot emacs with the emacs executable, if > emacs executable is newer, show the splash screen (with an option to > disable it in the main screen) > c. If there is way to store the dot emacs compatibility by > storing versions > in a list, we could check if the current version of emacs is > newer than > the one for which dot emacs was written. Show the splash screen and > an option to disable by adding the current version into the > list. The list > can be similar to 'custom-set-variables' /'custom-set-faces'. No, that is nonsense. We don't want Emacs to behave unpredictable: annoy the user for some time and then suddenly stop without the user being able to figure out what he changed. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum