From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Possible change to startup.el Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:46:46 +0200 Message-ID: <854qe94rnd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87fyy3hvxl.fsf@jurta.org> <01c53c28$Blat.v2.4$1bd305e0@zahav.net.il> <87k6ndkv98.fsf@jurta.org> <01c53cda$Blat.v2.4$4eb132e0@zahav.net.il> <85is2q5iwl.fsf@gnu.org> <01c540a6$Blat.v2.4$f7131960@zahav.net.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1113477189 17036 80.91.229.2 (14 Apr 2005 11:13:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:13:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 14 13:13:08 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DM2H1-0006bs-3X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:12:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DM2FY-0001LT-Sk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:11:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DM1P8-0007pU-Gc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 06:16:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DM1KJ-0006Y3-G4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 06:11:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DM1Bk-0004xX-VF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 06:03:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DM0wZ-0003kF-E5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:47:27 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost.localdomain) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DM0vo-0006a2-W5; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:46:41 -0400 Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <01c540a6$Blat.v2.4$f7131960@zahav.net.il> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:02:47 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35978 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35978 "Eli Zaretskii" writes: >> Cc: Juri Linkov , emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: David Kastrup >> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 01:58:02 +0200 >>=20 >> > Until multi-language menus are supported, perhaps we should change the >> > menu item to say >> > >> > Emacs Tutorial (in YOUR-LANGUAGE) >> > >> > where YOUR-LANGUAGE stands for the language name. This should be done >> > only for those languages that indeed have a translated tutorial. The >> > tooltip should also hint about that. >>=20 >> I think we should do that only for those languages that can't be shown >> in the menu. > > Why only for those? What's wrong with showing this for all languages > that have a translated tutorial? Emacs Tutorial (in de) is much less of a day-saving eye-catcher than Einf=C3=BChrung in Emacs which is why we went to the pain of providing the latter in the splash screen in the first place. And where consistency with the splash screen can be had, it does not seem out of the way to offer it. --=20 David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum