From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Semi-unhelpful error message given when trying to (provide 'CUA-mode) Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 10:19:40 +0200 Message-ID: <854pzh17c3.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <85lkswa29b.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <44701B91.60606@swipnet.se> <85wtcfbt3n.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <4470A6DB.3020504@swipnet.se> <85d5e79ipp.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <4470EF05.5070408@student.lu.se> <44715134.7050803@swipnet.se> <44717C21.1040600@student.lu.se> <447188A6.7000608@swipnet.se> <447190AF.6020109@student.lu.se> <4471B380.3060401@student.lu.se> <85ac9a5i29.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <4471BD7C.5030608@student.lu.se> <85mzda420k.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <4471C03A.8090607@student.lu.se> <85ejym4178.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <4471C388.4000506@student.lu.se> <8564jy3y5f.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <44723578.2080204@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1148372429 3017 80.91.229.2 (23 May 2006 08:20:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 08:20:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 23 10:20:27 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FiS7q-0007jy-Rw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 10:20:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FiS7q-0000Mv-17 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 04:20:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FiS7b-0000Mq-Pj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 04:20:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FiS7b-0000Me-4Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 04:20:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FiS7a-0000Mb-Oz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 04:20:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FiSBl-0004OQ-LP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 04:24:25 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FiS7Z-0002zx-Sc; Tue, 23 May 2006 04:20:06 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 4AA271C27933; Tue, 23 May 2006 10:19:41 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Lennart Borgman In-Reply-To: <44723578.2080204@student.lu.se> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Tue, 23 May 2006 00:04:40 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:55106 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > David Kastrup wrote: >> I have enough challenges without tackling pointless ones. I recommend >> Emacs when I consider it the best solution to a problem, not because I >> would derive pleasure from anybody using it. >> > I am glad but not surprised you are not tackling pointless > goals. But I am a bit surprised that what you write suggests that > attracting users does not seem to be connected to any long term > goal. I didn't say that it is unconnected to any long term goal, quite the contrary. Attracting users is highly connected to improving Emacs. Like skin rashes are highly connected to allergic shock. You don't treat allergic shock with makeup, though. Attracting users at the cost of making Emacs worse is putting the cart before the horse. And I doubt you could keep your intended clientele for long, anyway. You'll stand there shaking your head and saying "I don't understand why he went into shock after all. I painted the nuts orange and made them look like cherries. He could not possibly have recognized them." -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum