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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: Ralf Angeli <angeli@caeruleus.net>,
	lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" <storm@cua.dk>
Subject: Re: display-mm-width return value off on Windows
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 16:19:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <854pxplez2.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44B25639.8060000@gnu.org> (Jason Rumney's message of "Mon, 10 Jul 2006 14:29:29 +0100")

Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org> writes:

> David Kastrup wrote:
>>
>> Whatever solution is chosen in the end: it is important that the same
>> algorithm is used for converting point size of fonts into pixel size
>> and vice versa.
>>
>> preview-latex needs to guess how many pixels a given font will occupy
>> on the screen in order to create graphics matching in size.  And the
>> font sizes are returned in points, namely physical dimensions
> At least on Windows, point sizes for fonts are based on user
> configuration, not the actual physical size of the monitor.
> So I don't think you should be using display-mm-* for calculating
> sizes you expect to be relative to fonts anyway.
> Why not use the pixel size of the font? Surely that will be more
> accurate for the purpose you want.

It is not available.  We are talking about the design size of a font
here, not the line spacing (the latter could be deduced from frame
pixel height and stuff): the _design_ size of the default font needs
to get matched to the design size of the TeX constructs made into
bitmaps.

The only face-attribute we have available here is

`:height'
     Either the font height, an integer in units of 1/10 point, a
     floating point number specifying the amount by which to scale the
     height of any underlying face, or a function, which is called with
     the old height (from the underlying face), and should return the
     new height.

Of course, after resolving the font specification, an integer in units
of 1/10 point is the ultimate result.

And we need to recast this value into pixels, then let bitmaps be
generated that occupy _that_ number of pixels for the default design
size of the _TeX_ document.

When this is done, the design size of the default font of Emacs and of
the default font of the TeX document are _matched_, expressed in the
number of screen pixels.

And for that it is necessary that Emacs and/or Windows convert the
points to pixels in a predictable way, and the display geometry is the
only pointer we have for that.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-10 14:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-06 17:50 display-mm-width return value off on Windows Ralf Angeli
2006-07-06 21:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-06 21:25   ` David Kastrup
2006-07-07  5:56   ` Ralf Angeli
2006-07-07 10:18     ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-07 10:22     ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-07 12:05       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-07-07 16:54       ` Ralf Angeli
2006-07-08 12:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-08 13:23           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-07-08 14:42             ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-08 21:27             ` Jason Rumney
2006-07-08 22:23               ` David Kastrup
2006-07-08 23:03                 ` Jason Rumney
2006-07-09  7:36                   ` Ralf Angeli
2006-07-09  8:03                     ` David Kastrup
2006-07-09  7:41               ` Ralf Angeli
2006-07-09  8:05                 ` David Kastrup
2006-07-09 18:37                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-10 10:30                   ` Kim F. Storm
2006-07-10 10:45                     ` David Kastrup
2006-07-10 13:29                       ` Jason Rumney
2006-07-10 14:19                         ` David Kastrup [this message]
2006-07-10 21:28                           ` Jason Rumney
2006-07-10 22:05                             ` David Kastrup
2006-07-10 20:12                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-10 23:17                       ` Kim F. Storm
2006-07-10 23:22                         ` David Kastrup
2006-07-11 18:43                   ` Ralf Angeli
2006-07-12 13:07                     ` Kim F. Storm
2006-07-12 19:22                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-07-13 19:38                       ` Ralf Angeli
2006-07-13 19:59                         ` David Kastrup
2006-07-14 17:03                           ` Richard Stallman
2006-07-14 18:16                           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-07-14 18:33                             ` David Kastrup
2006-07-14 21:37                               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-07-15 22:06                                 ` Ralf Angeli
2006-07-16 17:04                                   ` Ralf Angeli
2006-07-14 17:03                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-07-09  9:31               ` Jan Djärv
2006-07-08 17:40           ` Robert J. Chassell
2006-07-06 22:09 ` Jason Rumney
2006-07-06 22:37   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-07-07  5:50   ` Ralf Angeli
2006-07-07  9:09     ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-08-05 14:50 ` Ralf Angeli
2006-08-19 15:15   ` Ralf Angeli
2006-08-19 15:37     ` David Kastrup
2006-08-19 16:31     ` Jason Rumney
2006-08-19 17:54       ` Ralf Angeli
2006-08-19 22:34         ` Jason Rumney
2006-08-20  8:19           ` Ralf Angeli
2006-08-21  9:06             ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-08-21  9:17               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-08-21 10:22                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-08-21 10:36                   ` David Kastrup
2006-08-21 11:45                     ` Jason Rumney
2006-08-21 11:55                       ` David Kastrup
2006-08-21 10:43                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-08-21 14:07                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-08-21 15:03                       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-08-21 19:22               ` Ralf Angeli
2006-08-21 23:10                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-08-22  5:57                   ` Ralf Angeli
2006-08-22 19:16                     ` Ralf Angeli
2006-08-22 21:38                       ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-23 18:31                         ` Ralf Angeli
2006-08-23 22:44                           ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-24 16:14                             ` Ralf Angeli
2006-08-24 20:18                               ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-25 16:38                                 ` Ralf Angeli
2006-08-25 22:28                                   ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-21 23:25                 ` Jason Rumney
2006-08-22  5:51                   ` Ralf Angeli
2006-08-22  7:46                     ` Jason Rumney
2006-08-22 19:24                       ` Ralf Angeli
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-07-14 23:55 Robert J. Chassell

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