From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:51:11 +0100 Message-ID: <854pb97hww.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pru8enjx.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <8763vy95a6.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87wsoc39i8.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <877igb7dsi.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87hcff5upc.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87fxuxsg3m.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87r6egp8oo.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <47D86DC6.4080805@gmail.com> <47D88B17.7000004@gmail.com> <47D95D07.60306@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205488367 21715 80.91.229.12 (14 Mar 2008 09:52:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kifer@cs.sunysb.edu, cyd@stupidchicken.com, "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, storm@cua.dk, miles@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 14 10:53:15 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ja6bA-00087j-Rk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:53:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ja6ab-00046U-9y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:52:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ja6ZP-0003DF-Av for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:51:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ja6ZN-0003BP-Lk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:51:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ja6ZN-0003Ap-8S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:51:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-10.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.50]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ja6ZG-0008Pw-1t; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:51:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.17]) by mail-in-10.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93DF1F515F; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:51:11 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (mail-in-08.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.48]) by mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D88B2DAC48; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:51:11 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-012-006.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.12.6]) by mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E5A2BB4E3; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:51:11 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 484181C4F906; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:51:10 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:55:00 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/6228/Fri Mar 14 05:45:15 2008 on mail-in-08.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92501 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > If a property is used then the dance must happen in the command loop. > > Doing it in the command loop is clean and efficient. That does not rule out solutions that don't _force_ us to do it there as long as they leave us with the option to do so. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum