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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: belanger@truman.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Creating an empty file
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:56:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <853b619u24.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r6tlpqwi.fsf@lrde.org> (Michaël Cadilhac's message of "Tue\, 23 Jan 2007 18\:57\:33 +0100")

michael@cadilhac.name (Michaël Cadilhac) writes:

> Jay Belanger <belanger@truman.edu> writes:
>
>> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
>> ...
>>> This would probably also apply for an existing file that has been
>>> changed on disk, but not in the Emacs buffer.  In this case it might
>>> possibly make sense to ask the "revert buffer" question before saving.
>>> In the case of a non-existing file, there is nothing to revert to,
>>> however.
>>
>> So are you suggesting that when saving a file whose buffer has not
>> been changed, that Emacs should compare it to the disk file anyhow?
>> I had always (always=for the last 10 seconds) thought that it didn't
>> for efficiency reasons.
>
> Well, the modification flag has a certain use that should be
> preserved. What may be done is to add a var
> `new-files-are-already-modified'.
>
> Maybe the (untested) following could help?

I don't think this a good idea since it will also cause Emacs to
refuse deleting the buffer without confirmation, and it will cause
autosaving to occur.

I think the current behavior is perfectly fine with regard to setting
the modification flag (or rather not setting it).  The problem rather
is that C-x C-s consults nothing except the modification flag before
deciding not to save at all, and not asking a question about it.  And
the prefix flag is already used for a different purpose, so we can't
use that to signal "I really mean it".

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-23 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <86bqkphiyj.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz>
     [not found] ` <87odopr8ga.fsf@lrde.org>
2007-01-23 16:35   ` Creating an empty file Jay Belanger
2007-01-23 16:48     ` David Kastrup
2007-01-23 17:19       ` Jay Belanger
2007-01-23 17:23         ` David Kastrup
2007-01-23 17:57         ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-23 23:56           ` David Kastrup [this message]
2007-01-24  1:19             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-24  7:12               ` martin rudalics
2007-01-24  2:58           ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-01-25  9:06             ` Kevin Rodgers
2007-01-25 10:36               ` Romain Francoise
2007-01-25 19:39                 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-25 21:44                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-25 22:01                   ` martin rudalics
2007-01-25 22:07                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2007-01-25 22:14                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-26 11:43                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-25 22:14               ` Piet van Oostrum
2007-01-23 18:20       ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-23 16:49     ` Leo
2007-01-23 17:11       ` David Kastrup
2007-01-23 21:57       ` Phil Jackson
2007-01-24  7:37         ` David Kastrup

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