From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Darwin support for lisp/battery.el. Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:46:09 +0200 Message-ID: <851x6fa4pa.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <8764vtxusp.fsf@xs4all.nl> <85mzp3a8am.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87d5pz8qoq.fsf@xs4all.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120431629 21309 80.91.229.2 (3 Jul 2005 23:00:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 04 01:00:27 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpDRl-0006cy-G7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 01:00:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpDPr-0006VQ-AC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:58:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DpDPW-0006Rc-UV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:58:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DpDPR-0006Nc-Oi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:57:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpDPO-0006Ii-Il for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:57:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DpDJn-0000gi-A0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:52:07 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DpDC0-0004lA-Fh; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:44:04 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id A7DC01C3DB68; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:46:09 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Lute Kamstra In-Reply-To: <87d5pz8qoq.fsf@xs4all.nl> (Lute Kamstra's message of "Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:34:13 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40283 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40283 Lute Kamstra writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> The kernel of MacOS is Darwin. The kernel of GNU/Linux is Linux. >> >>> The current comment says "Linux" because it refers specifically to >>> the kernel and its version numbers. (There are no generally >>> meaningful version numbers for the GNU/Linux system as a whole.) >> >> Well, I don't get it. What do you want to call the MacOS kernel if >> not Darwin? > > As I understand it, Darwin is a subset of OS X that includes the > Mach kernel and more. Mach is only the Microkernel. Looks like the definition of Darwin _does_ include command line utilities. So the proper verbage in this context would be "Linux" and "Darwin kernel". In neither case does GNU come into play. If one wants to drive home some point, one can say "Linux kernel" and "Darwin kernel". But GNU/Linux is simply wrong in this context. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum