From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.comp.gcc.fortran,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs and GFortran Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:16:52 +0100 Message-ID: <851wo5kr23.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <20061102190005.GA6116@meiner.onlinehome.de> <200611030143.30545.steven.bosscher@gmail.com> <20061103010817.EA39144018@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE> <20061103012103.GA49976@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <454AAA57.7090301@stanford.edu> <17739.37240.440687.793284@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <455A92E5.4000404@codesourcery.com> <17754.38861.243600.9872@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <455AA103.5080308@codesourcery.com> <85irhhksm6.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <1163582093.7128.62.camel@celery.andrew.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1163582254 24509 80.91.229.2 (15 Nov 2006 09:17:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:17:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Brooks Moses , emacs-devel@gnu.org, fortran@gcc.gnu.org Original-X-From: fortran-return-15804-gcgf-fortran=m.gmane.org@gcc.gnu.org Wed Nov 15 10:17:31 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcgf-fortran@gmane.org Original-Received: from sourceware.org ([209.132.176.174]) by ciao.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkGtQ-0004Cx-1h for gcgf-fortran@gmane.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:17:16 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 29600 invoked by alias); 15 Nov 2006 09:17:12 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 29582 invoked by uid 22791); 15 Nov 2006 09:17:10 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (HELO fencepost.gnu.org) (199.232.76.164) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:17:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GkGtD-00011e-1x; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 04:17:03 -0500 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 9BFFA1CE24FF; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:16:52 +0100 (CET) Original-To: Andrew Pinski In-Reply-To: <1163582093.7128.62.camel@celery.andrew.com> (Andrew Pinski's message of "Wed\, 15 Nov 2006 01\:14\:53 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.90 (gnu/linux) Mailing-List: contact fortran-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Original-Sender: fortran-owner@gcc.gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.gcc.fortran:15773 gmane.emacs.devel:62329 Archived-At: Andrew Pinski writes: > On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 09:43 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> I'd suggest that column 1 in Fortran is just called column 1 because >> column 0 contains the ASA print control character >> , >> but then I'd sound silly... > > I don't think ASA carriage control characters were part of the original > Fortran (which turns 50 in February). > > I think it has always been column 1 because of punch cards. The idea of > zero starting numbers is a much newer invention than Fortran. And it sounds like it is unique to Emacs, and not in the GNU error message standard, anyway, so no need to further think about it. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum