From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: doc patch: "Saving Properties" merge into "Format Conversion" Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 09:37:10 +0200 Message-ID: <851whus8rd.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87ps5m2s7z.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <87bqh3zi91.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <17978.34192.154994.884454@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17979.51666.93559.254397@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17981.10185.173469.54017@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87slaav9jr.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178437039 23219 80.91.229.12 (6 May 2007 07:37:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 07:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, Nick Roberts , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 06 09:37:18 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HkbIz-0001Qk-5y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 May 2007 09:37:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HkbPo-0001oH-Jf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 May 2007 03:44:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HkbPl-0001oC-CG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 May 2007 03:44:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HkbPi-0001no-QU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 May 2007 03:44:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HkbPi-0001nl-Fu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 May 2007 03:44:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-01.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.41]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HkbIq-0008Rs-IK; Sun, 06 May 2007 03:37:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-03-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-03-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.15]) by mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AE015C616; Sun, 6 May 2007 09:37:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-03.arcor-online.net (mail-in-03.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.43]) by mail-in-03-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B33262D3D18; Sun, 6 May 2007 09:37:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-015-012.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.15.12]) by mail-in-03.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6313A3429EF; Sun, 6 May 2007 09:37:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 70F361C1E1F2; Sun, 6 May 2007 09:37:11 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87slaav9jr.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Sun\, 06 May 2007 13\:51\:52 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.98 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:70583 Archived-At: Miles Bader writes: > I also disagree with some of Richard's ideas (e.g. releasing 22.2 > from the trunk, the microseconds/milliseconds/whatever patch), but I > don't think screaming and moaning is going to solve a damn thing, > particularly at a time when the right thing to do is move carefully > and deliberately. The "screaming and moaning" happens exactly because the right thing to do would be to move carefully and deliberately, and this simply does not happen. Since there is pretty much nothing left for people on the trunk/base to facilitate a release, I don't consider it out of the place to discuss how and where people can actually still accomplish work without being at fault for delaying the release. > Grow up people. You can disagree without acting like a spoiled 2 > year old. A 2 year old would not remember what an Emacs release was like... -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum