From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:39:42 +0200 Message-ID: <851wcw1qht.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87sl5n5yem.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87fy1nbe4f.fsf@jurta.org> <86myvu2zw1.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <20070912093913.GB12104@saeurebad.de> <87wsuum8qw.fsf@jurta.org> <85abrn9ini.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85d4wh3kf9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190094011 5896 80.91.229.12 (18 Sep 2007 05:40:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 05:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 18 07:40:09 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IXVod-0000MU-BD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:40:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IXVob-0000uu-Gh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 01:40:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IXVoU-0000sf-6S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 01:39:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IXVoP-0000la-LR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 01:39:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IXVoP-0000lR-BF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 01:39:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-01.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.41]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IXVoL-0003mU-05; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 01:39:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-in-08-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-08-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.20]) by mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB1215B6E1; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:39:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-in-09.arcor-online.net (mail-in-09.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.49]) by mail-in-08-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0054121300C; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:39:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-055-154.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.55.154]) by mail-in-09.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46583425E2; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:39:42 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 65D041CDAC0C; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:39:42 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon\, 17 Sep 2007 18\:24\:22 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4312/Mon Sep 17 20:03:23 2007 on mail-in-09.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79173 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Unfortunately, it isn't an exaggeration. > > You're taking a hostile tack which I consider unjust, so I will not > give weight to whatever is based on it. You may as well not repeat > it. Richard, you have accused about half a dozen different Emacs contributors of hostility by now and have threatened a number of things, from ignoring people to ominous warnings about actions you'll take. People are participating on Emacs development and discussing on this list not for the purpose of annoying you and making Emacs and GNU worse. There is, as far as I can see, not a _single_ person apart from you on this list who considers it a good idea to start Emacs with a splash screen when one asks it to edit a file. So we are trying to come up with a way of achieving your goals that has the least negative impact with regard to Emacs and GNU acceptance. And it does not help when you are threatening everybody who tries to help with the complicate task of implementing your goals in a manner compatible to the needs of Emacs users. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum