From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter S Galbraith Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: RMAIL, MIME-related bug Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:36:20 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <8517.1066358180@mixed> References: <200310121947.h9CJlhKH006102@oak.pohoyda.family> <6480-Thu16Oct2003192118+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1066358319 1762 80.91.224.253 (17 Oct 2003 02:38:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 02:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 17 04:38:37 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AAKVh-0000J3-00 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 04:38:37 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AAKVh-0007Ss-00 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 04:38:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AAKU9-00074X-9u for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:37:01 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AAKU2-000743-S5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:36:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AAKTW-00070g-Nm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:36:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [66.110.133.59] (helo=mixed.dyndns.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AAKTW-00070b-Ch for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:36:22 -0400 Original-Received: by mixed.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B599571C69; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:36:21 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mixed (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mixed.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D0871C68 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:36:21 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Message from Eli Zaretskii of "Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:21:19 +0200." <6480-Thu16Oct2003192118+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> X-Mailer: MH-E 7.4.2+cvs; nmh 1.1-RC1; GNU Emacs 21.3.1 X-Image-URL: http://people.debian.org/~psg/face.png X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17190 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17190 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Stefan Monnier > > Date: 16 Oct 2003 12:54:24 -0400 > > > > Why do people even consider doing any processing at that point? > > Because doing that when the user wants to display a message means that > (a) displaying a message will be slow, and (b) you will need to do > this kind of processing every time you display a message. In > contrast, the current design of RMAIL does the processing only once > for each message. Excuse the intrusion of a lurker... Why would it be slow? Try MH-E. It re-does all MIME processing at every display and it's quite fast. > > any other option will make you lose information at some point and > > also forces you to have code to re-create the original format > > The question is, do we care that we lose information, and do we need > to recreate the original format? That's exactly what I was asking > Alexander to explain. For one, you can't check a GPG signature if you change one bit. Secondly, it's much easier to convert your mail to some other MUA if it left it intact. We came up against similar questions working on MH-E, so I'm speaking from some experience. Best regards, Peter