From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Feature request] face property `raise' Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 20:54:03 +0200 Organization: University of Duisburg, Germany Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <84znn0om5w.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> References: <67B8CED503F3D511BB9F0008C75DAD660548556F@dewdfx17> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1049829161 2783 80.91.224.249 (8 Apr 2003 19:12:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 19:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 08 21:12:39 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 192yVk-0000eJ-00 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:12:00 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 192yZs-0000kz-00 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:16:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 192yTX-00040S-03 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 15:09:43 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 192yN6-0007Wz-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 15:03:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 192yMh-0007FM-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 15:02:41 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 192yM4-0006yD-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 15:02:00 -0400 Original-Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 192yKe-0008Cg-00 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:00:32 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 192yFp-0007pN-00 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 20:55:33 +0200 Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.090018 (Oort Gnus v0.18) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NAXgv2kilDxU5fofiG5NAoLxgqc= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:13039 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:13039 "Wedler, Christoph" writes: > > I would like to see a face property `raise' with the same semantics as > > the display property `raise'. > > > I don't think so. Raising is not a matter of how something is > > displayed, but where it is displayed. > > Where something is displayed (at least relatively, and that's what > `raise' is about) is a special case of how something is displayed. It seems to me that it ought to be possible to affix `round-scripts' to all four corners of a symbol. For example, one would like the effect of the TeX snippet $a^1_2$ to be possible in Emacs, too. So I agree with Richard that it is about "where", and much less about "how". ({Super,sub,...}scripts are usually smaller, so that the size could be added to "how".) The TeX snippet shows a with a superscript 1 and a subscript 2. -- A preposition is not a good thing to end a sentence with.