From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.psgml.devel Subject: Re: Key sequence C-c C-f C-e uses invalid prefix characters Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:10:33 +0100 Organization: University of Dortmund, Germany Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <84vg1r1yly.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> References: <200212162248.gBGMm2m00520@rum.cs.yale.edu> <3DFFC29E.4060100@silmaril.ie> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1040226863 25931 80.91.224.249 (18 Dec 2002 15:54:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:54:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: psgml-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18OgWc-0006jz-00 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:54:22 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18OgXI-0003zX-00 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:55:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18OgRs-0006zo-04 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:49:28 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18OgRW-0006xI-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:49:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18OgK5-0005LU-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:41:26 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18OgJo-0005Ki-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:41:09 -0500 Original-Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18OgJO-0005hT-00 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:40:42 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18OgGL-0005Wd-00 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:37:33 +0100 Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2.93 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Cancel-Lock: sha1:4Ws3STIo51nUlPM62+ZdviALt40= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:10262 gmane.emacs.psgml.devel:82 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:10262 Peter Flynn writes: > Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> Last I heard (and that was before Dave's patches were incorporated), >> PSGML did not deal well at all with the situation where the DTD is >> unknown, which happens to be the standard case for me. This is >> why I spent some time improving sgml-mode. >> I believe that Dave's patches do bring PSGML to the point where it >> is about as good as sgml-mode when editing text without DTD, so maybe >> it is now good enough to replace sgml-mode. > > There is no point in even attempting to edit SGML without a DTD, > as a DTD is *required* by ISO 8859 for all processing. Note that both sgml-mode and PSGML are, despite their names, sometimes used for editing XML. Therefore the wish that PSGML work well without a DTD is meaningful and useful. -- ~/.signature is: umop ap!sdn (Frank Nobis)