From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Kai_Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Will default key bindings spell the death of Emacs? Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 07:19:07 +0200 Organization: University of Duisburg, Germany Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <84vfvtggfo.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> References: <3ED67422.7060305@math.ku.dk> <20030529214728.GA24984@gnu.org> <20030529.174743.98156433.Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054274599 10296 80.91.224.249 (30 May 2003 06:03:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 06:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri May 30 08:03:16 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Lcyc-0002fE-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 08:02:54 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19LdDd-0008It-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 08:18:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Lczv-0007rZ-9c for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:04:15 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19LczX-0007nW-Gv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:03:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19LczC-0007F4-Q1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:03:31 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Lcyx-00072I-IM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:03:15 -0400 Original-Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Lcwj-0002aQ-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 08:00:57 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Lco6-0002E3-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 07:52:02 +0200 Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:lLalDHN5pbt8fkc4gAU4HpMWyck= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14457 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14457 Tak Ota writes: > Is it worth considering as a long term development item to introduce a > notion layer between key sequence and function? Each mode package > binds a notion to a function instead of a key sequence to a function > in its local map. The key sequence to notion binding is defined > elsewhere. This way if a user binds some other key sequence than C-n > to "next" it applies to entire emacs living environment including but > not limited to next-line. Emacs has this already, in a way. C-d is perceived as a generic deletion command, and also invokes it. It's kind of weird to consider concrete bindings to be notions, as well, but then, why not? There is not *so* much gain from having better names. -- This line is not blank.