From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Kai_Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Will default key bindings spell the death of Emacs? Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 07:20:35 +0200 Organization: University of Duisburg, Germany Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <84r86hggd8.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> References: <3ED67422.7060305@math.ku.dk> <20030529214728.GA24984@gnu.org> <3ED68408.4080700@math.ku.dk> <200305300010.h4U0AiNY018227@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054275366 12434 80.91.224.249 (30 May 2003 06:16:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 06:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri May 30 08:16:04 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19LdBM-0003EQ-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 08:16:04 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19LdQN-0008Tp-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 08:31:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19LdA4-0003qL-DJ for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:14:44 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Ld9L-0002sX-Pw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:13:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Ld8t-0001Mh-GZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:13:34 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Ld8Z-0000tT-5X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:13:11 -0400 Original-Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Ld6R-000327-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 08:10:59 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Lco7-0002EB-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 07:52:03 +0200 Original-Lines: 16 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:0iNlzddDGqgu2XVxWKF+wNUNWAk= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14460 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14460 "Stefan Monnier" writes: >> I do not argue that we should implement MS Windows-like keybindings. I just >> argue that it should be easyer to change key bindings. > > What exactly are you suggesting to make it easier ? Remapping the whole keyboard doesn't make sense, but some interface that reads a key sequence and a function name, and perhaps a map name, and then does the right thing would be good. You can get close by hitting the key sequence and then C-h l and copying and pasting, but I think that's not enough. -- This line is not blank.