From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:33:27 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <84ptnt6oc8.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> References: <200304111308.h3BD8oW03188@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <844r55f7yr.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <200304111428.h3BESwmW009531@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050075745 26907 80.91.224.249 (11 Apr 2003 15:42:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 11 17:42:20 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1940fU-0006zS-00 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:42:20 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 1940l0-0005rJ-00 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:48:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 1940eN-0001RF-01 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:41:11 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 1940dw-0001Q1-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:40:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 1940du-0001PK-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:40:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.80]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 1940du-0001P7-00; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:40:42 -0400 Original-Received: from fwd02.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1940Yv-0003Xy-08; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:35:33 +0200 Original-Received: from lucy (520080024987-0001@[217.225.230.94]) by fmrl02.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1940Yr-0B2hmKC; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:35:29 +0200 Original-Received: by lucy (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 8D48928859; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:33:27 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: "Stefan Monnier" In-Reply-To: <200304111428.h3BESwmW009531@rum.cs.yale.edu> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:28:57 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090018 (Oort Gnus v0.18) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Sender: 520080024987-0001@t-dialin.net Original-cc: rms@gnu.org Original-cc: Luc Teirlinck Original-cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se Original-cc: otaylor@redhat.com X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:13157 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:13157 "Stefan Monnier" writes: > I have no idea what you guys are talking about, but as someone who's > spent a fair amount of time on the Emacs support for Motif and Xaw3d > scrollbars, I think that any dragging behavior that > > - doesn't flicker majorly > - can always make (point-max) visible > - doesn't impose an unnatural thumb size and position > (i.e. unlike the current Motif situation) > - is not much slower than the current code > > is already pretty difficult to obtain, so talking about anything finer > than that seems totally pointless. Alright. I haven't looked into it at all. Another idea that might be easy to implement and that would improve the current situation is to somehow indicate the end-of-buffer condition better. So, how about using different bg color for the part of the trough that corresponds to overscrolling? Then I could see where in the buffer I am. -- file-error; Data: (Opening input file no such file or directory ~/.signature)