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From: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai Großjohann)
Subject: Re: display table for eight-bit-graphic
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:17:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84of65cz3l.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200301250116.KAA11729@etlken.m17n.org

Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> writes:

> In article <rzqbs263bxm.fsf@albion.dl.ac.uk>, Dave Love <d.love@dl.ac.uk> writes:
>
>> I just got reminded about this.  I think the standard display table
>> should display eight-bit-graphic characters as octal in multibyte
>> mode.  Displaying them as graphics can be misleading.
>
> I agree, and I vaguely remember that we discussed it looong
> ago, and people agreed on displaying them as octal.

I thought it was discussed and it was agreed to display them as
graphic?  But I agree that it is misleading.

I think the idea was that people who use eight-bit locales expect
things to be displayed using that charset -- so if a random byte
comes along, and it happens to match the code for ä in that locale,
then display that byte as ä.  Regardless of whether the random byte
is really known to be in iso-8859-1 encoding.  So Emacs would match
the behavior of /bin/cat in this respect.

Hm.  I think that Erik Naggum has argued in this direction before.
His stuff is sometimes difficult to read (because you have to ignore
the rant) but I guess his arguments are more coherent and
comprehensible than mine.
-- 
Ambibibentists unite!

  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-25 10:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <rzqbs263bxm.fsf@albion.dl.ac.uk>
2003-01-25  1:16 ` display table for eight-bit-graphic Kenichi Handa
2003-01-25 10:17   ` Kai Großjohann [this message]
2003-01-25 22:24     ` Ehud Karni
2003-01-26 14:27       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-01-26 15:37   ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-27  2:20     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-01-29  0:04       ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-29 11:03         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-03-03 18:59           ` Richard Stallman
2003-03-03 20:41             ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-03-18  7:26             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-03-19  8:48               ` Richard Stallman
2003-03-19 10:58                 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-03-21 19:07                   ` Richard Stallman
2003-02-03 14:28         ` Dave Love
2003-02-03 14:29         ` Dave Love
2003-02-03 14:32       ` Dave Love

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