From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 16:03:51 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <84of3p2dyw.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> References: <20030325193739.ZGIN3924.fep01-svc.swip.net@gaffa.gaia.swipnet.se> <3E8345E8.4090509@swipnet.se> <1048872463.17161.132.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1049134327.3326.74.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200304020429.h324TOP11647@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <84of3p2m44.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <200304021352.h32DqLO11793@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <844r5hf3ih.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <200304021442.h32EgmU11822@eel.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1049297316 16749 80.91.224.249 (2 Apr 2003 15:28:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 15:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 02 17:28:33 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 190k9a-0004Hz-00 for ; Wed, 02 Apr 2003 17:27:54 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 190kAi-0008QP-00 for ; Wed, 02 Apr 2003 17:29:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 190k6j-0007GC-0B for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2003 10:24:57 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 190k2P-0005wn-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2003 10:20:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 190joS-0000zh-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2003 10:06:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.17]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 190jnf-0000g8-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2003 10:05:15 -0500 Original-Received: from fwd02.sul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 190jna-0006uq-00; Wed, 02 Apr 2003 17:05:10 +0200 Original-Received: from lucy (520080024987-0001@[217.225.233.27]) by fmrl02.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 190jmz-17Rwq8C; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 17:04:33 +0200 Original-Received: by lucy (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 3547428628; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 16:03:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-Reply-To: <200304021442.h32EgmU11822@eel.dms.auburn.edu> (Luc Teirlinck's message of "Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:42:48 -0600 (CST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090018 (Oort Gnus v0.18) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Sender: 520080024987-0001@t-dialin.net X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12845 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12845 Luc Teirlinck writes: > Kai GrossJohann wrote: > > It doesn't (directly) have anything to do with the question of how > to measure size. > > Yes it does, because the overscrolled piece contains no content > (characters) but it covers a visible amount of window height (pixels). > Visually, the overscrolled piece is a piece of the "document" that you > can scroll to. Okay, now I understand. Personally, I like the thumb size to represent visible content size. -- A preposition is not a good thing to end a sentence with.