From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Evil Boris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rmail-mbox branch Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:15:04 -0400 Message-ID: <84od39q9mv.fsf@boris.laptop> References: <87zlprvod0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4868CF84.1040005@pajato.com> <48A90589.4020804@pajato.com> <48A91146.60200@pajato.com> <48A968A3.8050806@pajato.com> <48BA1DAE.2030005@pajato.com> <874p51xblf.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220210139 10332 80.91.229.12 (31 Aug 2008 19:15:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:15:39 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 31 21:16:33 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KZsPV-0001iT-OP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:16:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54224 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZsOW-0002Ma-Mw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:15:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZsOS-0002M6-8Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:15:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZsOR-0002Lu-RT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:15:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36933 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZsOR-0002Lr-Lt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:15:23 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:54591 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZsOR-0004xC-Cz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:15:23 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KZsOL-0007oC-Ep for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:15:17 +0000 Original-Received: from 207-38-194-119.c3-0.wsd-ubr5.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com ([207.38.194.119]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:15:17 +0000 Original-Received: from evilborisnet by 207-38-194-119.c3-0.wsd-ubr5.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:15:17 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 32 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207-38-194-119.c3-0.wsd-ubr5.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:P/OzVhsS4RBhy9+icNd1C2zvKbU= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103333 Archived-At: Chong Yidong writes: > Paul Michael Reilly writes: > >> After I work out with the maintainers when to inflict Rmail/mbox on >> all Users, the ChangeLog will be created. > > Is there any reason not to inflict it *now*? I am a regular user of RMAIL. I have not had a chance to use the mbox version, for two reasons. The main reason is that, as of the last time anything concrete was said on this mailing list of the state of RMAIL/mbox, it was mentioned that there was no support for dealing with attachments (and I somehow also assumed that dealing with non-US character sets and/or UNICODE, but I may be confused). I need this functionality for my day-to-day use of rmail. "Inflicting" it on users without such support seems a bit excessive. Secondly, rmail/mbox converts my mailbox to mbox format. Which is fine for a one-time experiment (backup, try it, play with the buttons, etc), but I would be reluctant to use it day-to-day, until I have some confidence that newly arriving mail is handled without data loss. Just paranoid, a bit. --Boris PS. I do not use IMAP at the moment, so this is a secondary issue for me. I am not sure if IMAP (not just fetching via IMAP) is consistent with Rmail's view of the world, by the way.