From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:51:16 +0100 Organization: University of Duisburg, Germany Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <84llz3ijob.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1048604567 24987 80.91.224.249 (25 Mar 2003 15:02:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 25 16:02:46 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18xpta-0006Fp-00 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:59:23 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18xpuX-0005z6-00 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:00:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18xpt9-0006oZ-04 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:58:55 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18xpsH-0005vW-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:58:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18xprH-0005PN-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:57:00 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18xpqi-0005Hy-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:56:24 -0500 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18xpoe-0005tq-00 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:54:16 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18xpmE-0005g0-00 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:51:46 +0100 Original-Lines: 11 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.090016 (Oort Gnus v0.16) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:02h6Fz0+iUGhFOYseTCJaUphHg0= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12605 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12605 I understand why the scrollbar thumb is shorter than I think it should be: to allow for placing the last line of the buffer in the top line of the window. But still, I'm not so happy with the current look of the scrollbar. It confuses me quite a bit. Is there no way to make the thumb extend to the bottom of the scrollbar area when end of buffer is visible, and yet to also allow scrolling further down so that the last line of the buffer can be moved to the top of the window? -- A preposition is not a good thing to end a sentence with.