From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: info Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:51:38 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <84isw6nyxx.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> References: <200301292039.OAA26000@moose.dms.auburn.edu> <84n0lj821a.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <9743-Thu30Jan2003220221+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1043960025 11842 80.91.224.249 (30 Jan 2003 20:53:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18eLgt-00034V-00 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:53:43 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18eLmh-000773-00 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:59:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18eLiO-00028V-01 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:55:16 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18eLhP-0001aM-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:54:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18eLgL-0000vb-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:53:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.85]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18eLfG-0000WV-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:52:02 -0500 Original-Received: from fwd09.sul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18eLfC-0008Nc-06; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:51:58 +0100 Original-Received: from lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de (520080024987-0001@[80.135.113.252]) by fmrl09.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 18eLf2-1cxQHIC; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:51:48 +0100 Original-Received: by lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 3BBF7439DD; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:51:38 +0100 (CET) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <9743-Thu30Jan2003220221+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il> ("Eli Zaretskii"'s message of "Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:02:22 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090015 (Oort Gnus v0.15) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Sender: 520080024987-0001@t-dialin.net X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:11233 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:11233 "Eli Zaretskii" writes: >> From: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) >> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:39:13 +0100 >> >> First of all, if point is on a menu line, then choose that menu >> item. That much we all agree on. > > Doesn't Emacs do that now? I thought it did. Oh, it does. Sorry for that misinformation. >> Further, if point is on a line starting with whitespace and >> containing some non-whitespace text, this could be a continuation >> line for a menu line. > > I think this should be removed and instead Emacs should not go > anywhere in those cases. Several examples in this thread show how > such ad-hoc algorithms can fail miserably. Can you explain why do you > think this behavior is better than what the stand-alone reader does? OK, the standalone behavior is also fine. (The error message could be improved, perhaps, but that's a minor thing.) I agree with the previous statement that an error is better than the wrong target. -- Ambibibentists unite!