From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Kai_Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GNU Emacs 21.3.50 : Problem in (point-min) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:25:48 +0200 Organization: University of Duisburg, Germany Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <84adc5197n.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> References: <200306252001.h5PK1F0Z024543@hampton.math.ohio-state.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1056620002 12444 80.91.224.249 (26 Jun 2003 09:33:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 26 11:33:20 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19VT7t-0003DY-00 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:33:09 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19VTCK-0000Ju-00 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:37:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19VT7w-00016n-P7 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 05:33:12 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19VT7I-0000q8-Ci for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 05:32:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19VT3y-00004w-9f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 05:29:08 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19VT1R-0006vR-8h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 05:26:29 -0400 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19VT17-0002lJ-00 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:26:09 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19VT16-0002l9-00 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:26:08 +0200 Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:wI2ZTblteb6m7k/Y04hTQlTcIR4= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15272 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15272 Markus Rost writes: > It happens for me also for other numbers. I find it somewhat > irritating to see in the minibuffer once in a while various characters > from various international character sets. It doesn't hurt much, but > it doesn't look clean. Buffer position 97 has nothing to do with > character "a", so why showing "?a" in the minibuffer? When Emacs prints the number, it doesn't know where it came from. So it just has to do what's possible. (+ ?0 3) is probably meant to be the character ?3, so what about (+ 48 3)? Deciding when something is a character and when it isn't is ai-complete. Emacs is well on its way (M-x doctor RET), but just not quite there, yet. -- ~/.signature