From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: patch for optional inhibit of delete-other-windows(IDE feature) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:04:34 +0200 Message-ID: <84D8FEFE8D23E94E9C2A6F0C58EE07E3429D71@mucmail3.sdm.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1209395171 22298 80.91.229.12 (28 Apr 2008 15:06:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 28 17:06:42 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JqUv5-0000MR-5P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:05:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50417 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JqUuO-0001cE-KZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:04:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JqUuH-0001ad-Qy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:04:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JqUuG-0001Zl-12 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:04:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45242 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JqUuF-0001Zg-P4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:04:39 -0400 Original-Received: from world2.sdm.de ([192.76.162.230]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JqUuF-0001IL-Fu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:04:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mucns1 ([10.40.232.18] helo=mucns1.sdm.de) by world2.sdm.de with esmtp (MTA) id 1JqUuC-0006AK-5b; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:04:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=sdmmail1.sdm.de) by mucns1.sdm.de with esmtp (MTA) id 1JqUuC-0005Pn-3C; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:04:36 +0200 Original-Received: from mucmail3.sdm.de ([10.40.232.45]) by sdmmail1.sdm.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:04:35 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: patch for optional inhibit of delete-other-windows(IDE feature) Thread-Index: AcipPiGewxwOh7JwToq64kjsIBLHugAAoJvA X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Apr 2008 15:04:35.0430 (UTC) FILETIME=[2BE2A060:01C8A941] X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96066 Archived-At: joakim@verona.se wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >=20 >=20 >>> Maybe "pin" and "group" should really be one parameter or whatever. >>=20 >> Right. Maybe all the pinned windows can just be in their own group. >> But maybe conflating the two is not good enough. >=20 > My intuition is that conflating the properties is not quite good > enough, so I will start with two separate properties. I intuit this > because maybe you want different pinned groups, and maybe you want > different groups that are not pinned. >=20 > However, I have as yet no real use-case for the above options, except > my status-window example, and the ECB, neither of which seem to > require both "pin" and "groups". not true: Especially ECB could have great benefit from the "groups"! ECB not only displays special "browsing" windows but often also a=20 compile-window which should also be prevented from being deleted but should handled slightly different - especially the window-switching commands could benefit from the groups-feature! Running next-window or other-window in a typical ECB-layout will take usage of the "group"-parameter! Klaus So my recommendation: Do not conflate >=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Stefan