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From: <klaus.berndl@sdm.de>
To: <tassilo@member.fsf.org>, <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: What IDE features do we need?
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:58:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84D8FEFE8D23E94E9C2A6F0C58EE07E33E618B@mucmail3.sdm.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87hcdrwyjk.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de>

Tassilo Horn wrote:
> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> 
>> These sound like good features.  I suppose they depend on parsing the
>> code more than Emacs does, so far.
> 
> Indeed, but CEDET does.
> 
>> Is Cedet sufficient as a platform to straightforwardly implement
>> these features?
> 
> The part of CEDET that provides the core to such functionality is
> called semantic.  Here's the Info description:
> 
> ,----[ (info "(semantic)Overview") ]
>> semantic uses "parsers" to analyze programming language sources.  For
>> languages that can be described using a context-free grammar, parsers
>> can be based on the grammar of the language.  Or they can be
>> "external parsers" implemented using any means.  This allows the use
>> of a regular expression parser for non-regular languages, or
>> external programs for speed. 
>> 
>> semantic provides extensive tools to help support a new language.  An
>> original LL parser, and a Bison-like LALR parser are included.  So,
>> for a regular language, all that the developer needs to do is write a
>> grammar file along with appropriate semantic rules.
>> 
>> semantic allows an uniform representation of language components, and
>> provides a common API so that programmers can develop applications
>> that work for all languages.  The distribution includes good set of
>> tools and examples for the application writers, that demonstrate the
>> usefulness of semantic.
> `----
> 
> So I'd say the core functionality is there.
> 
>> If not, what else is needed?
> 
> Lots of UI features, but the most important things have been addressed
> recently, like persectives, dedicated windows, tabs on windows.

but as already discussed - dedicated windows is not sufficient for 
real IDE-feelings...

Klaus

> 
> Bye,
> Tassilo




  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-24  9:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-21 19:46 Please stop proposing changes in defaults! Richard Stallman
2008-04-21 21:32 ` Paul R
2008-04-22  4:20   ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-21 21:40 ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-22  3:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-22  4:20   ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-22  8:48     ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-22 11:52   ` What IDE features do we need? [Was: Please stop proposing changes in defaults!] Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-22 12:22     ` Dan Kruchinin
2008-04-22 12:28     ` Dan Kruchinin
2008-04-22 20:08       ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-22 21:13         ` Paul R
2008-04-22 13:28     ` What IDE features do we need? defaults!] Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-22 13:41       ` joakim
2008-04-22 17:07         ` klaus.berndl
2008-04-22 14:27       ` Drew Adams
2008-04-22 15:44       ` What IDE features do we need? Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-22 15:40         ` Drew Adams
2008-04-22 17:12         ` joakim
2008-04-22 15:44     ` Eric Hanchrow
2008-04-22 16:27       ` Drew Adams
2008-04-22 21:12     ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-23 15:58       ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-23 20:29         ` Tassilo Horn
2008-04-24  3:21           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-24 12:26             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-24 16:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-24 17:21                 ` Thomas Lord
2008-04-25  3:40                   ` Richard M Stallman
2008-04-28 18:28                   ` Mike Mattie
2008-04-28 17:57                 ` Mike Mattie
2008-04-28 18:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-24 19:55             ` Bruce Stephens
2008-04-24  5:15           ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-24  6:24             ` joakim
2008-04-24 19:42               ` Richard M Stallman
2008-04-24  6:35             ` Tassilo Horn
2008-04-24  9:58               ` klaus.berndl [this message]
2008-04-24 10:25                 ` David Kastrup
2008-04-24 19:43               ` Richard M Stallman

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