From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Kai_Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Will default key bindings spell the death of Emacs? Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 21:58:46 +0200 Organization: University of Duisburg, Germany Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <844r3cw6ix.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> References: <3ED67422.7060305@math.ku.dk> <20030529.174743.98156433.Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054325213 22747 80.91.224.249 (30 May 2003 20:06:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 20:06:53 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri May 30 22:06:51 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Lq8N-0005qb-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 22:05:51 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19LqNf-0001rt-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 22:21:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Lq7x-00011i-Io for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 16:05:25 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Lq7Q-0000OS-Kf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 16:04:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Lq78-00086q-Gw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 16:04:34 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Lq6W-0006gm-LU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 16:03:56 -0400 Original-Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Lq3m-0005aW-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 22:01:06 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Lpzn-0005JD-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 21:56:59 +0200 Original-Lines: 15 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:FVaNbDE+VRxJEeK647yEUqyJvA0= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14504 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14504 Richard Stallman writes: > We already have a feature that does more or less that job: the feature > of rebinding a command to another alternate command. For instance, a > major mode, instead of rebinding C-n, could rebind next-line. I think what's needed is the other way round: modes bind a symbolic function key, and the Church of Emacs uses C-n to invoke that symbolic function key, whereas the heretic Viperians use j to invoke the same. And then dired, say, could bind something to and Viperians can then type j to invoke the special dired function. -- This line is not blank.