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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.078, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.011, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256539 Archived-At: On 27.09.2020 05:41, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > It's very discouraging to see the constant push-back against even the > > small and reasonable changes. > > We do adopt some such changes. If it's an actual change, and not just an addition, the amount of effort required to enact it is very often vastly disproportionate. > Arguing about people's general nature is useless. > You can't convince anyone about a general characeristic > and arguing trnds to offend. I'm not talking about people's nature. This is feedback on the general process, which you can take under advisement, or not. I've been here for a number of years, so I'm not just talking out of my posterior. > Please focus on a specific proposal you want to try to advance. > We can work on it until we reach a form that is ok to adopt. > That is how progress is made. There has been a number of those in this year alone. Here's a simple example: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-09/msg00842.html BTW, my last personal email to you has seen no response. Were you too busy, or is there some delivery problem, maybe?