From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: BZR and the bootstrap Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 05:55:05 +0300 Message-ID: <83zkwwv6k6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4C5D8EB2.7090601@alice.it> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281322514 18924 80.91.229.12 (9 Aug 2010 02:55:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 02:55:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Angelo Graziosi Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 09 04:55:12 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiIW8-0008Rt-F6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 04:55:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46227 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OiIW7-0000Px-Ve for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 22:55:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56795 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OiIW2-0000Pp-HW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 22:55:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiIW1-0004O8-BJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 22:55:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:57138) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiIW1-0004O0-2U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Aug 2010 22:55:05 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L6V008006K1H900@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 05:55:03 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.102.143]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L6V007HG6RQIDA0@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 05:55:03 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <4C5D8EB2.7090601@alice.it> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128446 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2010 18:49:54 +0200 > From: Angelo Graziosi > > Now I have noticed, when my internet connection is on (1), that BZR is > called during the bootstrap. This is flagged both by 'top' and the modem > lights. > > Why BZR is called? What is it doing? Probably because Emacs calls VC every time it needs to visit a file that is in a versioned directory. > What happens if I switch off the connection (2)? Nothing bad should happen, because if I'm right, Emacs invokes "bzr status" which is done entirely locally. > It seems that if I strip the bzr tree by '.*' file (3), > > $ find emacs-trunk -name ".*" -delete > > and the connection is on, BZR isn't called at all! Right, because then it's no longer a versioned directory, as far as Emacs is concerned. > So, which is the right way to bootstrap: (1), (2) or (3)? All of the above, I think.