From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Annoying (frameset bug?): desktop-mode and maxmized frame Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:10:01 +0200 Message-ID: <83zjp91u06.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ob5srgmz.fsf@gmail.com> <87zjpcpe9h.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwlcp33l.fsf@gmail.com> <87txfjcr3p.fsf@gmail.com> <8738n3447s.fsf@gmail.com> <37BD7B70-9463-4BDC-B327-DFB3AB20F4D8@mit.edu> <874n7ikx48.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384272643 18878 80.91.229.3 (12 Nov 2013 16:10:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 16:10:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, yandros@MIT.EDU, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jambunathan K Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 12 17:10:47 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VgGYA-0002Sg-7w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:10:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43717 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VgGY9-0001oa-6D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:10:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51638) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VgGXt-0001my-Qb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:10:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VgGXo-0002tS-Gk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:10:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:50208) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VgGXo-0002sy-7o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:10:24 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MW500M00RHP9E00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:10:03 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MW500MXJRKR5Q40@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:10:03 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <874n7ikx48.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165210 Archived-At: > From: Jambunathan K > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:57:51 +0530 > Cc: Juanma Barranquero , > Stefan Monnier , > Emacs developers > > chad writes: > > > "The users might be unable to stop themselves from manually resizing > > frames in the middle of startup, even though they know they > > shouldn't." > > If a user does this his Emacs is USELESS (as my screenshot shows). > There are countless times that I had to restart my Emacs just to > workaround the issue. That sounds strange: at the very least, you should be able to invoke functions and commands from the *scratch* buffer, and the first command could be to set the frame dimensions to something usable. Alternatively, you could create a new frame (which supposedly will use default-frame-alist, and thus be of reasonable dimensions), and then kill the initial frame. Both alternatives sound better than restarting Emacs. Am I missing something?