From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 22:11:35 +0200 Message-ID: <83zj9r4sug.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83bnxuzyl4.fsf@gnu.org> <8761nusb90.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87vbkovhh7.fsf@engster.org> <87387rvobr.fsf@engster.org> <83ppat84hk.fsf@gnu.org> <20150106143933.0090bc83@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83r3v77ij6.fsf@gnu.org> <20150106154539.3d0752c4@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <87wq4ype3z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <878uherlf3.fsf@wanadoo.es> <20150108194342.1bd83ed1@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1420834295 2552 80.91.229.3 (9 Jan 2015 20:11:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 20:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org, perry@piermont.com To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 09 21:11:28 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9fu2-00084P-34 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 21:11:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52059 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9fu1-0000tl-E0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:11:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46824) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9fty-0000tg-7n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:11:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9ftv-0007gs-AM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:11:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:38346) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9ftv-0007gg-2s; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:11:19 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NHX00900E6UJV00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 22:11:17 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NHX0091TEQTFB70@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 22:11:17 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:181110 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 12:39:19 -0500 > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > There are refactorings that are impossible > > We were talking about completion -- you are changing the subject, This is the same subject. Completion, refactoring, and a few more features are all parts of what a modern IDE needs to offer. We are talking about creating infrastructure for such features.