From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Omitting Windows-specific parts from infrastructure changes Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 22:38:30 +0200 Message-ID: <83zj9bvph5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <838uh32gpg.fsf@gnu.org> <54B9D960.1000001@cs.ucla.edu> <834mrp24b1.fsf@gnu.org> <54BBF6E7.3090802@cs.ucla.edu> <83a91gymld.fsf@gnu.org> <54BC08B2.8070302@cs.ucla.edu> <837fwjzx5f.fsf@gnu.org> <54BC18B9.50202@cs.ucla.edu> <83y4oyycz8.fsf@gnu.org> <54BD4657.3010202@cs.ucla.edu> <83egqqy637.fsf@gnu.org> <54BD81C4.1070109@cs.ucla.edu> <833875xvin.fsf@gnu.org> <54BEC86A.7060605@cs.ucla.edu> <83d268w2w9.fsf@gnu.org> <54BFE299.3060600@cs.ucla.edu> <833874vx1e.fsf@gnu.org> <54C00076.1020406@cs.ucla.edu> <54C006E6.8060700@yandex.ru> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1421872734 14766 80.91.229.3 (21 Jan 2015 20:38:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 20:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 21 21:38:53 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YE23B-0001L9-8H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 21:38:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50094 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YE23A-0004xe-MR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:38:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43300) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YE22x-0004wf-Cw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:38:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YE22u-0006W1-6Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:38:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:36500) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YE22t-0006Vk-UU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:38:36 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NIJ00G00NKIPT00@mtaout28.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 22:36:38 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NIJ007AONX2BE90@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 22:36:38 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <54C006E6.8060700@yandex.ru> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.184 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:181529 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 22:07:02 +0200 > From: Dmitry Gutov > CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > For instance, the maintainer of what currently seems to be the best hope > for a Java editing environment (malabar-mode) uses Windows. > > Yours truly has spent quite a bit of time on Windows as well. Had Emacs > port not been available then, I'd probably have ended up not using it at > all in the end. My main development machine runs MS-Windows. So if I'm to continue my participation in Emacs development, the Windows build must be in good shape. On top of that, for better or worse, people who use Emacs on Windows happen to look up to me for fixing whatever problems happen there. Therefore, gratuitous additional difficulties in keeping the Windows build in good shape, such as those caused by Paul's selective changes, simply prevent me from doing more work in platform-independent parts of the code, like working on bugs and features not specific to MS-Windows. It's a net loss to everyone, including Paul. > > to help polish up the MS-Windows code? > > It seems to me that the goal is to help keep it up-to-date. We want to keep all the ports for modern platforms up-to-date. > (Sorry for butting in). Nothing to be sorry for.