From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho@gmail.com>
Cc: thibaut.verron@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Use of dedicated windows in gdb-mi.el
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 20:52:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83zj8m9atc.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8761bb9cq8.fsf@gmail.com>
> From: Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho@gmail.com>
> Cc: thibaut.verron@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 19:11:27 +0100
>
> >> > Don't you _want_ to see the output of a program you are debugging?
> >>
> >> Nope. I can see all that I need through "p". The actual program output
> >> for my particular program is barely relevant during runtime, and completely
> >> irrelevant during debug time.
> >
> > Then perhaps a better solution would be an option not to pop the
> > *output* window at all, so that the need to switch to another buffer
> > in that window is eliminated? Would you like such a solution better?
>
> No this won't work. I don't want *output* in this particular program. I
> might want it for others.
If the option not to pop it is a defcustom, you can turn it on when
you want *output* and off when you don't.
> I just want the typical approach of burying a buffer once and then
> having it not surface, even if there's new output.
The option not to pop it in a window will solve this as well, right?
> Just imagine the havoc of *Messages* being a dedicated window and
> popping up each time there's a new message, even if you bury it.
JFYI, there are people who like to configure Emacs like that. You've
just heard from one of them. To each their own.
> I dislike non-soft dedicated windows because they're bad design.
Others will disagree. gdb-many-windows is for them; if you don't like
that, it's very easy not to request those windows.
> I guess that I could just advice `set-window-dedicated-p' to be a
> noop in all cases.
If that's what you prefer. I still think that an option to pop or not
to pop the *output* window, which is the only one that opens without
your say-so, is a better solution. It gives you what you want without
affecting unrelated features and other users.
> If you have 9 minutes and a way to view Youtube videos, you can see my
> demo of a neat approach to manipulating windows (especially the window
> swap). This approach of course won't work with non-soft dedicated
> windows: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qZliI1BKzI.
That's cute, but is this related to GDB-MI and the issue being
discussed here? If so, how?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-09 18:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-06 18:02 Use of dedicated windows in gdb-mi.el Oleh Krehel
2015-02-06 19:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-06 19:14 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-06 21:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 9:19 ` Thibaut Verron
2015-02-09 14:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-09 14:50 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 15:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 18:42 ` martin rudalics
2015-02-09 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 15:57 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 17:22 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 18:11 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 18:26 ` Drew Adams
2015-02-09 18:39 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 19:48 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 19:44 ` Drew Adams
2015-02-09 19:50 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 20:09 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 20:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 20:33 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 20:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 20:46 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-10 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-10 2:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-10 3:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-10 6:39 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-10 15:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-02-09 18:53 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 18:58 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 19:47 ` Oleh Krehel
[not found] ` <<8761bb9cq8.fsf@gmail.com>
[not found] ` <<83zj8m9atc.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-02-09 20:42 ` Drew Adams
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2015-02-24 17:56 Glenn Brown
2015-02-24 18:02 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-24 18:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-24 22:23 ` Paul Eggert
2015-02-25 3:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-25 3:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-25 6:09 ` Glenn Brown
2015-02-10 0:49 Barry OReilly
2015-02-10 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
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