From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding a "misconceptions about Emacs" FAQ on the website Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 17:34:22 +0300 Message-ID: <83zipockgh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5782EE5F.4000505@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1468247706 25196 80.91.229.3 (11 Jul 2016 14:35:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nicolas@petton.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?Cl=C3=A9ment?= Pit--Claudel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 11 16:35:05 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bMcIa-0003kE-Pk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 16:35:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34048 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bMcIZ-0004xe-MQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 10:35:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:32863) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bMcIT-0004xV-UB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 10:34:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bMcIQ-0006Q2-N7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 10:34:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48247) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bMcIE-0006GP-Qh; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 10:34:42 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3810 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bMcIC-0007ta-SP; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 10:34:41 -0400 In-reply-to: <5782EE5F.4000505@gmail.com> (message from =?utf-8?Q?Cl=C3=A9?= =?utf-8?Q?ment?= Pit--Claudel on Mon, 11 Jul 2016 02:54:55 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205547 Archived-At: > From: Clément Pit--Claudel > Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 02:54:55 +0200 > Cc: Nicolas Petton > > I tend to hear the same arguments against Emacs all the time. Maybe we could have an FAQ about them on the beautiful new website? (And is this discussion welcome on emacs-devel?) > > The top three I get are, from least to most frequent: > > * I'd love to use Emacs, but (I hear) it's very slow to start > (Answers include 'Not if you load packages properly, i.e. if you install them using package.el', 'Starting the GUI version is slower than the command line version', and 'Using an Emacs daemon makes Emacs resume instantly') > > * The keybindings are scary > (Answers include CUA-mode and viper/evil) > > * I could learn Emacs, but vi(m) is more useful because it's available everywhere > (Answer is Tramp, which I've found people to be very impressed by) > > Ideally, if people like the idea of an FAQ, we could discuss top items to include; I'm not too interested in starting a thread about Emacs vs. the world. We already have a FAQ, so if we want to provide this information, I think it should be added to the existing FAQ. Thanks.