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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, tino.calancha@gmail.com
Subject: Re: naming functions [was: Ibuffer: w and B default to buffer at current line]
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 19:35:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83zin3hmpz.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2twddqafe.fsf@newartisans.com> (message from John Wiegley on Sun, 18 Sep 2016 12:23:33 -0700)

> From: John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  tino.calancha@gmail.com,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 12:23:33 -0700
> 
> I *think* that your point about "every command is also a function" is just a
> bit orthogonal to whether we should be multiplying the semantics of our
> functions -- be they commands or not. Clearly "string-append" should not start
> logging to disk, or "current-time" suddenly gain the ability to compute the
> volumes of spheres based on special arguments.
> 
> If your point is that this is vague, and can only be decided on a case-by-case
> basis, then yes, you've convinced me of that. I'll speak up whenever I see it
> happen, and we can discuss again in the context of particular issues.

Yes, my point is that where exactly to draw the line in the sand is a
judgment call in each particular case.  Some of the cases are crystal
clear either way, but that's rare.  Plus, we've been lumping together
similar or related behaviors in a single function since day one; in
particular every forward-SOMETHING function will do the equivalent of
backward-SOMETHING when invoked with a negative argument; that's a
very frequent paradigm in Emacs.  And there are others.  It's
more-or-less the distinct flavor of our programming, "the Emacsy way"
of doing things, if you want.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-09-19 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-14  5:35 Ibuffer: w and B default to buffer at current line Tino Calancha
2016-09-14  6:41 ` John Wiegley
2016-09-14  7:21   ` Tino Calancha
2016-09-14 14:08     ` Drew Adams
2016-09-15 22:05     ` John Wiegley
2016-09-16  6:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]       ` <<83intw5our.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-09-16 14:53         ` Drew Adams
2016-09-17 16:30           ` John Wiegley
2016-09-17 17:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-17 21:35               ` John Wiegley
2016-09-17 23:26                 ` Drew Adams
2016-09-17 23:51                   ` John Wiegley
2016-09-18  1:45                     ` Drew Adams
2016-09-18  2:18                       ` John Wiegley
2016-09-18 14:26                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-18 19:35                   ` John Wiegley
     [not found]             ` <<83zin630i9.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-09-17 18:47               ` Drew Adams
2016-09-17 19:25                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                 ` <<83vaxuib1p.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-09-17 19:33                   ` Drew Adams
2016-09-18 14:29                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                   ` <<d33a60f5-b8b6-4637-b3e6-ea1b09d98f85@default>
     [not found]                     ` <<83poo1i8nf.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-09-18 17:55                       ` naming functions [was: Ibuffer: w and B default to buffer at current line] Drew Adams
2016-09-18 19:23                         ` John Wiegley
2016-09-18 23:24                           ` Drew Adams
2016-09-19 16:35                           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-09-17 18:22   ` Ibuffer: w and B default to buffer at current line Tino Calancha
2016-09-26 12:08     ` Tino Calancha
2016-10-03 12:28       ` Tino Calancha

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