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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-26 ee512e9: Ignore buffers whose name begins with a space in save-some-buffers
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 09:54:05 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83zi9ncjg2.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o9q3lt8s.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (message from Eric Abrahamsen on Thu, 21 Sep 2017 12:57:39 -0700)

> From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 12:57:39 -0700
> 
> > Are there any upsides and downsides to consider wrt this solution?  If
> > so, what are they?
> 
> It isn't so much upsides and downsides, as being careful to add a single
> bit of functionality, without messing up present behavior and
> expectations for a highly-trafficked bit of code. I think we can agree:
> 
> 1. To leave the buffer name out of it (don't handle leading spaces
>    differently)
> 2. To require `buffer-offer-save' to be explicitly set non-nil in order
>    to to consider a non-file buffer for potential saving. I think
>    Kaushal's right that we should require both `buffer-offer-save' and
>    `write-contents-functions' to be non-nil
> 3. To leave the current behavior of the PRED argument unchanged
> 
> So I think Kaushal's solution is good: it won't change anything at all
> except to add a clause saying "when `buffer-offer-save' and
> `write-contents-functions' have been set non-nil, consider the buffer
> for saving". That's only going to happen when someone explicitly
> requests it.

Reusing buffer-offer-save for this purpose sounds a strange solution
for me.  That variable already says that Emacs should offer saving the
buffer, and now it will have to do double duty in a convoluted manner.
It sounds like we are making the problem harder, rather than simpler,
for modes to solve.

IOW, if we require buffer-offer-save to be non-nil, why do we need to
also require that write-contents-functions is non-nil?  There are 2
clauses in the condition we are talking about, both require
buffer-offer-save to be non-nil, and the only difference between them
seems to be the condition of buffer size being positive.  Is that what
write-contents-functions is about -- to allow saving "empty" buffers?



  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-09-22  6:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2017-09-19  2:44   ` [Emacs-diffs] emacs-26 ee512e9: Ignore buffers whose name begins with a space in save-some-buffers Stefan Monnier
2017-09-19  3:12     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-19 12:42       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-19 13:25         ` Kaushal Modi
2017-09-19 15:44           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-19 15:50             ` Kaushal Modi
2017-09-19 15:53             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-19 16:03               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-19 15:37         ` Leo Liu
2017-09-19 15:56           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-19 10:48     ` Kaushal Modi
2017-09-19 12:08       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-19 12:26         ` Kaushal Modi
2017-09-19 18:13           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-20  2:10             ` Kaushal Modi
2017-09-20  7:16               ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-20 17:14               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-21  8:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-21 19:57                   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-21 20:10                     ` Kaushal Modi
2017-09-21 22:53                       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-22  6:54                     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2017-09-22 15:52                       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-22 16:18                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-22 16:54                           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-22 19:03                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-22 23:27                               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-23  2:43                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-24 19:25                           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-24 19:29                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-24 20:59                               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-22 17:21                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-22 17:57                           ` Eric Abrahamsen

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