From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong <wyuenho@gmail.com>
Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, larsi@gnus.org, perry@piermont.com,
rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A couple of questions and concerns about Emacs network security
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 10:02:41 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83zhz3jzou.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKDRQS4iSG+vO2KXyVVWFCxoFfvNCPUO6ziOGBFGt6Zu=KOsgg@mail.gmail.com> (message from Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong on Fri, 6 Jul 2018 19:06:29 +0100)
> From: Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong <wyuenho@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 19:06:29 +0100
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
> Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>, rms@gnu.org
>
> In security circles these days, there's such a thing known as
> "security fatigue". Overly troublesome security measure that don't
> take human psychology into account will lead to numbness. A side
> effect of that is users will simply start ignoring security warnings
> like they skip reading iTunes's EULA.
Exactly my concerns wrt putting too many checks into 'medium'.
Is there any way to know in advance the percentage of connections (by
protocol, if possible) that will trigger any of those checks? If so,
we could have some quantitative measure of when the "fatigue" might
strike, and decide accordingly. Failing that, I guess the only way
would be to let users complain...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-07 7:02 UTC|newest]
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2018-06-22 22:00 A couple of questions and concerns about Emacs network security Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-22 22:43 ` Paul Eggert
2018-06-22 23:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-22 23:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 1:35 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-23 10:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 10:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 10:48 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-23 11:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 11:55 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-23 12:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 12:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-23 12:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 12:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 9:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 14:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 14:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 15:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-23 12:45 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-24 12:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-05 13:33 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 13:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05 15:29 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 18:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05 19:26 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-05 19:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 17:03 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-06 17:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 18:15 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-07 7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 10:30 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 11:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05 20:46 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 20:45 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-06 6:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 23:08 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-07 12:18 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-07 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 13:46 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-07 14:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 15:25 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-07 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 23:46 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-08 0:25 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-08 2:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 22:55 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-07 14:32 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 15:15 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-07 15:39 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 18:16 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-07 23:03 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 23:45 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-05 13:50 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-05 15:30 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 15:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-05 16:05 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 22:44 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-06 6:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-23 0:00 ` Paul Eggert
2018-06-23 0:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-23 9:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 2:17 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-23 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-23 10:21 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-23 11:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-23 22:28 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-24 14:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-24 14:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 14:48 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-24 15:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-24 16:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 17:10 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-24 17:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 18:29 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-24 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-24 21:30 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 1:25 ` Van L
2018-06-25 2:28 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 2:38 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 17:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-25 17:25 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 18:06 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-24 20:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 21:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 22:47 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 0:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-25 0:33 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-25 0:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 21:28 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-24 21:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-25 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-25 16:29 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 16:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-25 17:08 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 17:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-30 17:40 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-30 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-25 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-25 17:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-25 16:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-25 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-25 17:20 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 17:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-05 15:52 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 15:58 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-05 16:36 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 16:51 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-05 18:25 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 18:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05 18:43 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-05 20:31 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-08 11:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 9:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05 15:33 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 8:36 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-06 8:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 9:35 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-06 12:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 12:52 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-06 13:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 9:45 ` Stephen Berman
2018-07-06 12:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 13:50 ` Stephen Berman
2018-07-07 7:15 ` martin rudalics
2018-07-07 12:22 ` Stephen Berman
2018-07-07 13:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 13:47 ` Stephen Berman
2018-07-08 8:11 ` martin rudalics
2018-07-05 15:10 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-06-23 6:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-23 10:34 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-05 15:58 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 19:20 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-05 20:46 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 22:44 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-06 6:42 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-06 8:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 9:28 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-06 13:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 18:06 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-06 18:48 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-07 7:02 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2018-07-07 9:36 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-07 9:59 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 10:01 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 21:44 ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-07 21:59 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-07 22:11 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 23:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-10 18:20 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-10 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-10 18:40 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-10 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-13 20:50 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-14 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-14 17:18 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-14 18:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 22:13 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 13:09 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-09 13:33 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 13:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-09 13:49 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 17:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-09 17:24 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-10 0:06 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-10 0:03 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-10 0:02 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-06 13:03 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-06 14:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 21:24 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 14:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 14:54 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 15:13 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 16:56 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 17:06 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-08 17:25 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 17:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 18:54 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 19:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 19:32 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 22:56 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-08 17:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 18:12 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 18:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 19:22 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-09 17:17 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 17:36 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 17:38 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-09 18:10 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 18:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-09 18:47 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-10 16:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 19:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 19:31 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 17:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-09 17:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-09 17:09 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 15:29 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 16:35 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-08 18:31 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 18:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 19:28 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 17:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 19:16 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 14:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 14:58 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 15:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 15:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-06 16:53 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-06 23:11 ` Richard Stallman
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