From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, tzz@lifelogs.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu,
radon.neon@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 17:10:11 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83zhywee9o.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1fdNxg-00028v-7w@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Richard Stallman on Wed, 11 Jul 2018 18:51:52 -0400)
> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, tzz@lifelogs.com, radon.neon@gmail.com,
> larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 18:51:52 -0400
>
> > It doesn't help that dropping the current format makes the commit logs
> > deteriorate in quality in every project I saw (present parties
> > excluded, of course).
>
> Could you show examples of what you mean?
> This could be a very important issue.
I agree it's important, but I'm not sure this is the right place to
discuss it. But since you asked, I'll show a typical example.
GNU enscript stopped using ChangeLog in 2014. Since then the log
messages look like this:
commit 0779ca6512bf93e8f8dfe53c1a3446adb2475acc
Author: Werner Fink <werner@suse.de>
AuthorDate: Tue Jan 23 15:26:50 2018 +0100
Simply avoid warnings of modern gcc
Signed-off-by: Werner Fink <werner@suse.de>
Signed-off-by: James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>
commit 1b76685a8e405f54bae2b0f131588e8018e80f71
Author: Werner Fink <werner@suse.de>
AuthorDate: Tue Jan 23 15:26:49 2018 +0100
Mention options for helper apps in manual page
Signed-off-by: Werner Fink <werner@suse.de>
Signed-off-by: James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>
commit 9cccf335aafe68d04f6b4daeeb435e5188db4acb
Author: Werner Fink <werner@suse.de>
AuthorDate: Tue Jan 23 15:26:48 2018 +0100
Add optional address for mailto option
Signed-off-by: Werner Fink <werner@suse.de>
Signed-off-by: James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>
commit 3638fc4643436b27b4fd034416d77651a057fc42
Author: Werner Fink <werner@suse.de>
AuthorDate: Tue Jan 23 15:26:47 2018 +0100
Flexible encoding and support of locale paper size
as well paper size names known by ghostscript
Signed-off-by: Werner Fink <werner@suse.de>
Signed-off-by: James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>
commit a356d343aa9db52b75432cde927b6f9bad6a7c44
Author: Werner Fink <werner@suse.de>
AuthorDate: Tue Jan 23 15:26:45 2018 +0100
Automake 1.12 and up no longer supports pre-ANSI
Signed-off-by: Werner Fink <werner@suse.de>
Signed-off-by: James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>
etc. You can see the whole thing here:
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/enscript.git/log/
I see something similar in many projects, except that "old hands" like
Paul Eggert, Jim Meyering, and others still write log entries in GNU
style, so where these guys are active, the overall picture is not too
bad. But others don't, and their entries are much less informative.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-12 14:10 UTC|newest]
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2017-12-15 21:26 ` The name gnus-cloud.el Richard Stallman
2017-12-16 22:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-17 22:22 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-17 22:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-12-17 22:57 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-12-18 21:15 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-17 23:20 ` Stephen Berman
2017-12-18 21:17 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-17 23:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-18 0:33 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-18 3:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-18 21:16 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-19 3:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-21 16:50 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-21 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-22 18:47 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-22 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-22 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-23 14:58 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-23 15:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-24 20:34 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-25 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-25 22:27 ` Paul Eggert
2017-12-26 19:40 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-10 13:16 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-24 20:34 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-25 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-31 16:27 ` Steinar Bang
2017-12-31 16:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-31 18:12 ` Óscar Fuentes
2017-12-31 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-01 0:48 ` Steinar Bang
2018-01-01 4:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-31 18:27 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-01-01 1:05 ` Steinar Bang
2018-01-01 4:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-01 10:07 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Steinar Bang
2018-01-01 10:59 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Andreas Schwab
2018-01-01 21:40 ` Steinar Bang
2018-01-01 11:00 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-01-01 21:37 ` Steinar Bang
2018-01-01 11:06 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-01-01 21:36 ` Steinar Bang
2018-01-01 21:59 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-01-01 22:42 ` Steinar Bang
2018-01-01 22:04 ` Óscar Fuentes
2018-01-01 22:45 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-01-02 0:02 ` Óscar Fuentes
2018-01-02 1:15 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Richard Stallman
2018-01-02 8:06 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-02 8:49 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-10 13:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-10 15:05 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-07-10 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-10 20:54 ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-10 23:04 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-11 3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11 3:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-11 4:44 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-07-11 8:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11 13:54 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support), Re: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support), Re: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support), " Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-11 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11 16:09 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-07-11 17:13 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-07-11 22:50 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-11 23:04 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-12 23:35 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-13 20:13 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2018-07-14 7:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11 17:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-11 18:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11 20:14 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-11 22:36 ` João Távora
2018-07-12 2:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 9:04 ` João Távora
2018-07-12 13:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 16:26 ` João Távora
2018-07-12 16:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 16:47 ` João Távora
2018-07-12 16:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 16:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 16:56 ` João Távora
2018-07-12 17:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 19:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-13 6:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 17:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 23:12 ` João Távora
2018-07-13 18:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-14 17:36 ` [PATCH] New option to make C-x 4 a use file-less ChangeLog buffers (was Re: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support)) João Távora
2018-07-15 5:33 ` [PATCH] New option to make C-x 4 a use file-less ChangeLog buffers Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-15 10:41 ` João Távora
2018-07-15 14:11 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-16 2:15 ` [PATCH] New option to make C-x 4 a use file-less ChangeLog buffers (was Re: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support)) Stefan Monnier
2018-07-16 10:10 ` João Távora
2018-07-16 12:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-16 14:02 ` João Távora
2018-07-16 15:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-16 18:00 ` João Távora
2018-07-16 18:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-16 18:50 ` João Távora
2018-07-16 21:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-21 10:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-16 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-16 23:02 ` João Távora
2018-07-21 10:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-21 13:02 ` João Távora
2018-07-21 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-21 15:08 ` João Távora
2018-07-21 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-08 1:10 ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-10-08 1:31 ` João Távora
2018-07-12 13:36 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 15:53 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-07-12 16:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 16:48 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-12 17:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 20:01 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-12 20:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 20:28 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-13 3:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-13 8:18 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-13 12:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-13 13:07 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-13 15:29 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-07-13 15:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 16:40 ` João Távora
2018-07-12 16:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-12 23:33 ` João Távora
2018-07-13 18:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-13 19:45 ` João Távora
2018-07-13 20:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-11 17:08 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-07-11 17:56 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-11 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-11 22:51 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-12 14:10 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2018-07-11 22:51 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-12 19:46 ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-12 23:03 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-12 23:39 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-11 18:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 17:03 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-07-12 17:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-13 4:33 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-07-13 8:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-13 14:15 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-13 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-13 16:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-13 23:11 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-14 6:58 ` Commit header lines (was: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support)) Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-14 16:09 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-14 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-14 21:57 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-12 19:42 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-13 6:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-02 16:15 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-03 2:50 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-03 3:24 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Stefan Monnier
2018-01-03 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-03 18:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-03 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-03 20:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-03 20:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-03 22:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-04 3:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-04 5:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-04 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-04 8:03 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-04 14:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-04 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-04 13:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-01-05 3:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-03 18:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-03 22:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-04 12:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-04 18:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-03 15:32 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-03 20:11 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Stefan Monnier
2018-01-03 16:42 ` Stephen Leake
2018-01-04 11:46 ` Richard Stallman
2018-01-03 3:08 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Richard Stallman
2018-01-03 3:28 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Stefan Monnier
2018-01-08 2:16 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Richard Stallman
2018-01-08 4:22 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-08 18:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-08 18:41 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-08 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-08 19:29 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-08 21:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-09 2:55 ` Richard Stallman
2018-01-09 7:27 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-10 3:03 ` Richard Stallman
2018-01-10 8:22 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-10 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-11 22:08 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Stefan Monnier
2018-01-12 8:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 2:33 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-13 5:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-13 8:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 10:31 ` Tim Landscheidt
2018-01-13 17:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-13 19:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 21:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-13 19:35 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-13 19:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 20:22 ` Paul Eggert
2018-01-14 3:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 8:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-16 2:16 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) (Was: The name gnus-cloud.el) Richard Stallman
2018-01-09 2:54 ` Richard Stallman
2018-01-02 22:04 ` git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Steinar Bang
2018-01-02 5:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-02 17:34 ` The name gnus-cloud.el Karl Fogel
2018-01-02 20:42 ` Chad Brown
2017-12-18 21:15 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-19 6:09 ` John Wiegley
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2017-12-21 16:51 ` Richard Stallman
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