From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again. Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2020 12:41:14 +0300 Message-ID: <83zh4v68jp.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20200926163008.GS1349@protected.rcdrun.com> <83blhc7f4x.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29754"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: bobnewell@bobnewell.net, rms@gnu.org, rpluim@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, mardani29@yahoo.es, joaotavora@gmail.com To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 09 11:42:31 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kQov1-0007b4-7Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 11:42:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58392 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQov0-000357-An for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 05:42:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34924) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQou9-0002Bh-MR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 05:41:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59101) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQou4-0005bf-Ol; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 05:41:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3327 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kQotp-0007RQ-P7; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 05:41:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: (emacs-devel@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257256 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2020 07:38:00 +0000 > cc: Eli Zaretskii , > Daniel Martín , > bobnewell@bobnewell.net, rms@gnu.org, rpluim@gmail.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com > From: Gregory Heytings via "Emacs development discussions." > > > I think something like: > > > > Also documented in the >Emacs user's manual<. > > Also documented in the >ELisp programmer's reference<. > > > > should be clear enough (where >...< is meant to delimit the hyperlink). > > > > Perhaps it would be even clearer as follows (again with the example of > kill-buffer): > > See also `(emacs) Buffers'. For programmers, see also `(elisp) Buffers'. "For programmers" is ambiguous (programmers are users as well). Maybe something like "For calling from a Lisp program". And we should have some adequate qualification for the user-manual link as well, perhaps "For interactive use".