From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding.
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2021 09:54:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83zh0josom.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1l7twa-0003Jt-H1@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Richard Stallman on Fri, 05 Feb 2021 00:46:12 -0500)
> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> Cc: eliz@gnu.org, ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2021 00:46:12 -0500
>
> I think this shoula also apply to considering a feature
> that would be an incompatibility, or would voilate
> established conventions and patterns.
>
> Incompatibilities include changing the behavior of a series of keys
> which isn't erroneous (for instance, C-x o o or C-x o ,).
>
> An example of violating a pattern is defining C-x followed by a
> capital letter to mean something different from the corresponding
> lower-case letter.
I think keeping these patterns could be a good idea, but if we want
these patterns not to be violated, we need to document them first.
Right now, none of these two patterns are documented (AFAICT), and at
least for me it was a surprise to learn that they are patterns we are
supposed to try not to break.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-05 7:54 UTC|newest]
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2021-02-03 5:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-03 16:03 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-03 16:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-03 17:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-05 5:46 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-05 7:54 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
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