From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Variable pitch text filling Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 19:26:56 +0200 Message-ID: <83zgpkqlr3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ilwft1ph.fsf@gnus.org> <837dcv2c2c.fsf@gnu.org> <875ysft0l3.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34488"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 01 18:29:15 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1msTPv-0008k2-7D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 18:29:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56012 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1msTPt-0006Yj-Tz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 12:29:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56408) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1msTO3-00054g-40 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 12:27:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=59996 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1msTNy-0007dS-9J; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 12:27:16 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ozksTeUB9tPP29cw2IunCGWK7yagAIUJdh8vcn4/RxE=; b=Lcchm7FCy4hM PkKDBGylEoxkV3xRgwjuL64rbUlmNMDnQNElXxMllPcTJU9Cevlmch/zYqnYsAffImT83OxyWQxxZ 3mbHe309GLmaJxRRA0cIRgpywTnxDOC0cDC8eAOVBAVhvpQItyVvsFiYTMGlKr2KvXM+rlW1flpE2 quL1/rnrQFEkFHpGZvzUa7Ed4+e0eK1ZaZKbLv1oE/y13Qx3I17nMRvJ95oFE0IrsirMZRCcmnFH3 oTlHVNAb4aMNX4MQyPQU8vyGHMhGTRFW77Q0LGx0D169TTlcQ7qxp1DVtDuol29rbY6TbK0KT0C12 hOSTla8IG+jOGAt8pkJbOQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2306 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1msTNw-0008R1-4p; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 12:27:14 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Wed, 1 Dec 2021 18:07:33 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:280654 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 18:07:33 +0100 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Emacs developers > > IMHO, I think we'd at the very least need a hyphenation feature to do > a somewhat proper job. I think hyphenation is a separate feature, and a major job at that. We _can_ have justification without it, since most real-life situations are nowhere near the extreme cases you show. > This is unfortunately hard to get right, as > hyphenation rules differ depending on languages, and there are even > different preferences within the same language (we have two main > methods for hyphenation in Swedish, both equally accepted). Exactly. So let's not let the perfect block the good, okay? We are (still) not pretending to be a WYSIWYG word processor, so we can be excused for occasionally doing a less than perfect job (which still is better than not supporting justification at all).