From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling native compilation by default when libgccjit is present Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2021 14:52:37 +0200 Message-ID: <83zgpbw962.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87czmdqpv9.fsf@web.de> <83h7bo7rvz.fsf@gnu.org> <87bl1tjage.fsf@web.de> <877dchj9cu.fsf@web.de> <83ee6ozfb0.fsf@gnu.org> <87tufjvnc2.fsf@web.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14750"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 13:55:23 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1muwTh-0003c6-Td for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 13:55:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40278 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1muwTf-0006Sz-OF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 07:55:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37942) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1muwRP-00044B-GS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 07:53:01 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=56056 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1muwRO-0007ZE-4n; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 07:52:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=5rzMN06/i1J+4JCLPDCGgYlrUPK8hsnDAkAGDH0vj54=; b=Doamkp9tVYSG pg7MJ9Z5GSqcTT9yKM9OSnmgVGRTNdlTdUBBVIutR9B+hgQL+bxXfqDyLOSLis1JdsojPBXlhYEES 3WXFH7vMdkkR2CClld/QCfWEL5Y+eaZ0Dpr4ObTjfzyrPckqcOshGceeWlnsMNoHREesVZMFGC4Km LmNr9L7bhyxYNYsNGZhNnL8D9VjJTrsCwPlb7VocPzJoilEp4f7At0SQD2G4s5Dz+jyEvGHnEXBTu 7yvuZKbXP4eZgdtsC9rPBy2LFBk4bcJAznUp/IQd4HllTMlv4X7UHzMlCusXAlgv6BlvNwl/jnvlP YqFIQSCLlM3IWB/Ks2PhIw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4556 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1muwRM-0002ge-HH; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 07:52:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87tufjvnc2.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Wed, 08 Dec 2021 03:31:57 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281343 Archived-At: > From: Michael Heerdegen > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2021 03:31:57 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > You get additional warnings because each of the *.el files is compiled > > in a separate Emacs process, which starts from a clean state. By > > contrast, it may be the case that your code says something like > > > > (require 'foo) > > .... > > (require 'bar) > > > > and 'bar' uses some stuff in 'foo' under the assumption that 'foo' is > > always loaded before 'bar'. Since native-compilation will compile > > 'foo' and 'bar' separately, it will emit warnings. > > So `foo' requiring `bar' is enough? In most cases, yes. Or using the various autoload forms. > Is this information unobvious enough to be added as a note to the > manual text describing native compilation? Now is seems obvious to me > but yesterday it wasn't. As Robert points out, we just added it.