From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [SOLVED (magic?)] Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2022 10:43:22 +0300 Message-ID: <83zgilyndx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <874k20vuy4.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87ilqf2j92.fsf@gmail.com> <87a6bpsxxk.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <874k1x7qkw.fsf@gmail.com> <875yljjdvg.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es> <87pmjrgjpy.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es> <87r141wrip.fsf@logand.com> <8735gh110a.fsf@penguin> <87leu9t3eq.fsf@logand.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34639"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 10 09:45:41 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nzZKv-0008si-6q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:45:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54478 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzZKt-0002c3-98 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 03:45:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:32840) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzZIu-0001Y5-Ax for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 03:43:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49122) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzZIt-0004As-QV; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 03:43:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=J/B7vecwetYP4RlSs6fFDUWkaZFCN4XUmx6bw5DSx44=; b=rtiCGhvxnTU2 B4x7D9M0AVr02dazxp7JvlhSR7Tlp+wuJf0/J+2xAMt31t9YujtksBjbeoua/JCiPWac5NZTfs3d4 aklk7RyyzGQ+XDNoA7oZiiz69birgm1jlyH83xSh7i0CV/dohPMCAaS/uYQ71avhIgHzuxKGptQSs L9RZAVaAAyrmua4bZ7tGywU5EdPay0LWEcT/enVXJzeXCNbUdSU7VIDxqL9T5dUygE4Mk8NPh8JHM qPoBSR/2PnJKuDodaPosWs/A4ZrUioq39qxtll7xns3daV1R3Dwj7UVyWH9NMyq8q6ApnTHBV16pd eo4yp/7f6H/PW5h58mMyVw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2806 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzZIi-0007Nb-3D; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 03:43:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 09 Jun 2022 18:29:39 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290992 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 18:29:39 -0400 > > > You are reproducing the content [sic] industry's worst lies without knowing > > it. Intellectual property [sic] is intellectual poverty :) > > It's much worse than that! "Intellectual property" is a confused > overgeneralization -- it misrepresents reality and spreads confusion, > by lumping together laws that we should rigorously treat as separate > and unrelated. > > Please see https://gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html and join me in > rejecting that term. That article talks about "intellectual property" in relation to laws that (allegedly) govern it. While "intellectual property" is many times abused by establishments with some vested interests, the term also has a meaning which has nothing to do with laws, copyright, trademarks, patents and the like: when it is used to refer to ideas that constitute trade secrets of some organization, which uses these ideas and secrets to get a competitive edge in its products and business transactions. There's (AFAIK; IANAL) no laws covering this, but companies will generally guard those secrets very closely and refrain from disclosing them, definitely not to their competitors. P.S. This discussion doesn't really belong to emacs-devel.