From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Merging feature/android Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2023 15:47:38 +0200 Message-ID: <83zg8n4ao5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87edq7ztks.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87o7p7tz16.fsf@yahoo.com> <83sfej8v17.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsajtrrx.fsf@yahoo.com> <83o7p78ns8.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1obsamf.fsf@yahoo.com> <0100f288-fcc0-8b91-5f12-18bf22969e50@cs.ucla.edu> <87ttyzs8q1.fsf@yahoo.com> <253e9494-6f78-89b7-8f5f-9c2e8461d95a@cs.ucla.edu> <878rgaspvs.fsf@yahoo.com> <86bkl6z1sc.fsf@aarsen.me> <87mt4qqi2o.fsf@yahoo.com> <83a60q84eo.fsf@gnu.org> <87a60qqb0c.fsf@yahoo.com> <83y1oa6k71.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfehpfcv.fsf@yahoo.com> <83a60o7mif.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzzspvcl.fsf@yahoo.com> <83ttyw65v5.fsf@gnu.org> <4B15D851-5638-48E6-A789-3017A1CBA971@yahoo.com> <8584ff7c-f83e-18b1-1300-dfa0788e4443@cs.ucla.edu> <87v8jbohk4.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3476"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, arsen@aarsen.me, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 08 14:48:02 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pZu9B-0000f9-HG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 14:48:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pZu8v-0005GX-6M; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 08:47:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pZu8r-0005GB-1t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 08:47:42 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pZu8q-00021N-HW; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 08:47:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ZY3sSSrSBHDrLTsLaXntCwivmzO4kTpyqy2WRdlkbFs=; b=Wto5nEGnhBlV 5JlfWjMFEgkLrPUkg9EXgKC1DJ6QCC0a0qQ8VbBQM/E9/UHXi1KAb3w7RQotBMfDSaiG2no30mKnf n/xCph421Ie6CMPrmsV26rvZKUBDubsul8eXYo/fxw284it7d2RrIumfHKWXtPDBlDPqXjszn8Fzq xYjoGPdkYTlYtG8w/y/mjj25yjPhXmxczwiybMjQFCINFOjJZnsEF9a/S4iT+m2hkXdwMKQPSZv5j Buqbge1S+IQiaXEsGTsD1MLU3WcnrfjyGwGaaE7LV0pi/zRofBhcAGRBtJVRYUcp77NHJmns+X+Zn uhk0W6J4ryuSUWNuNP0gXg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pZu8p-0003LF-W1; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 08:47:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Paul Eggert on Tue, 7 Mar 2023 23:07:01 -0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:304129 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 23:07:01 -0800 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , arsen@aarsen.me, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Paul Eggert > > On 2023-03-07 22:58, Po Lu wrote: > > > We're not talking about image libraries here, but something extremely > > basic, be it window system support (libXpm) or a C compiler. > > I don't know what heuristic was used to decide that GnuTLS and some > image libraries are considered important enough to nag the Emacs builder > about, whereas libraries like libXpm are considered less important. > Perhaps Eli or Stefan can comment on what the heuristic is. GnuTLS is nowadays a must for any networking, that's why. > I agree with the suggestion of making modules ifavailable by default on > all platforms, as this is more consistent, and it better reflects the > fact that anyway Emacs must work without any modules installed. I disagree. We decided to make modules the default for a reason.