From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.comp.lib.gnulib.bugs Subject: Re: Files from gnulib Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:02:10 +0200 Message-ID: <83y668yfgt.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y66bzuhc.fsf@gnu.org> <4D3C81A1.70009@cs.ucla.edu> <83ipxfymox.fsf@gnu.org> <4D3E0A8E.1030400@cs.ucla.edu> <8362tdzl7m.fsf@gnu.org> <4D3E8E4C.1010000@cs.ucla.edu> <4D3F1171.5010201@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1295982138 17558 80.91.229.12 (25 Jan 2011 19:02:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, bug-gnulib@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 25 20:02:13 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pho9d-0001Os-2W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:02:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55960 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pho9c-0006cN-Fe for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:02:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=38119 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pho9U-0006b9-Ql for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:02:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pho9U-0008Vn-0W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:02:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:49065) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pho9Q-0008U4-IW; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:02:00 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LFL00M00DR8UH00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:01:46 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.46.39]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LFL00M8GE6XJY90@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:01:46 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <4D3F1171.5010201@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:134948 gmane.comp.lib.gnulib.bugs:24920 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:07:45 -0800 > From: Paul Eggert > CC: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, bug-gnulib@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > We already provide instructions for people who want to build Emacs > on MS-DOS platforms. Our instructions can be expanded slightly > to tell them how to extract the files in the first place, and how > to deal with such prompts. They can be asked to just type RETURN, > for example. To read the instructions, you need to unpack the archive first. > djtar -n emacs-25.chg emacs-25.tgz > ... > It is a bit more complex and error-prone for MS-DOS, yes. But > it has the advantage of compartmentalizing the MS-DOS restrictions > into the MS-DOS build instructions Sorry, but these complications are unacceptable for me. We use something like that in GDB, and the result is extremely fragile and error-prone, I find problems with missing renames every time I build GDB. I'm not going to make the same kind or mistake again in Emacs. Stefan and Chong, please make a decision regarding this issue. If the decision is not to rename these few files in the Emacs distribution, and instead ask me to cope with these complications, I will understand that the knee-jerk reaction of too many members of this community when they hear "MS-DOS" is more important that any voice of reason, and I will therefore resign from everything I do for Emacs development.