From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: `C-b' is backward-char, `left' is left-char - why? Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 00:10:13 +0300 Message-ID: <83y61kdjnu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <6F4054004B154CFB8E2753172D316C13@us.oracle.com> <4DE4F8D0.7010800@lanl.gov> <82y61l16bg.fsf@gmail.com> <83aae0f7rn.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1307049533 10336 80.91.229.12 (2 Jun 2011 21:18:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: PJ Weisberg Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 02 23:18:48 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSFI0-0003hJ-MI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 23:18:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44284 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QSFHz-00088w-LR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:18:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50995) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QSF9b-0006uw-W2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:10:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QSF9Z-0006xH-Ta for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:10:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:41625) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QSF9Z-0006vX-FM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:10:05 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LM600000L8X9T00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 00:10:03 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.223.140]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LM600MG6LGPDEH0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 00:10:03 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:140101 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 12:29:04 -0700 > From: PJ Weisberg >=20 > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote= : > >> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 08:35:32 -0700 > >> From: PJ Weisberg > >> Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" > >> > >> On Thursday, June 2, 2011, Andy Moreton wrote: > >> > >> > the current position, depending on the bidirectional context. > >> > >> A user familiar with only left-to-right languages might not know= what > >> "bidirectional context" refers to here. > > > > Right. =A0Suggestions are welcome for how to say that less vaguel= y, but > > without spilling the entire UAX#9 into the doc string ;-) >=20 > Something like "...depending on the natural direction of text aroun= d > the cursor. See UAX#9 regarding the display of text in languages t= hat > read right-to-left." Hm... "natural direction" is hardly clear. How about "reading direction" instead? Anyway, this is from the doc string of right-char, and we didn't yet figure out how to rephrase its main part. When we do, we can revisit this particular aspect. Thanks.