From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: call for more ert tests Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 23:12:41 +0300 Message-ID: <83y59ygdae.fsf@gnu.org> References: <838v1zjrnl.fsf@gnu.org> <8361x3jqsy.fsf@gnu.org> <8338s7jp53.fsf@gnu.org> <87bo6vb8uo.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83ehbqi5lj.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372191184 16632 80.91.229.3 (25 Jun 2013 20:13:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 20:13:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 25 22:13:04 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UrZbq-0003Ww-PT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 22:13:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49413 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrZbq-0007sF-91 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:13:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37933) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrZbi-0007m1-Pm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:12:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrZbe-0002yC-S5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:12:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:33968) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrZbe-0002y1-KI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:12:50 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MOY00000TEE7I00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 23:12:49 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MOY000ELTHD5340@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 23:12:49 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161047 Archived-At: > From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen > Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 21:18:48 +0200 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > 1) The Linux kernel. 2) Both the Emacs Lisp language and the > sorta-kinda C layer are novel ideas for most novices; the copyright > assignment paperwork; the unfamiliar VC; the many unfamiliar concepts > that Emacs has compared to most other projects (buffers, encodings); the > interaction between the Lisp bits and the C bits; the way the C bits > aren't compiled with -Wall, so you get little help from the compiler... > You may be used to all the Emacs internals, but poking around in Emacs > is pretty daunting compared to simple stuff like the Linux kernel. I'm surprised you can say that an OS kernel is easier than Emacs. As for an extension language, many packages have that. Bottom line, I'm not convinced.