From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Finding packages to enable by default Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 10:18:00 +0200 Message-ID: <83y53y1jgn.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87mwkgb74k.fsf@yandex.ru> <52A02473.8090005@gmx.at> <87d2laq3e5.fsf@yandex.ru> <27cf3be2-5371-4c6c-8e93-5942f8369589@default> <87mwkey18f.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386317901 341 80.91.229.3 (6 Dec 2013 08:18:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 08:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ahyatt@gmail.com, adatgyujto@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, bozhidar@batsov.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, drew.adams@oracle.com To: Jambunathan K Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 06 09:18:25 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VoqcC-00047a-Gc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 09:18:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57768 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoqcC-0007ml-10 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 03:18:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59067) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Voqc5-0007gt-Ae for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 03:18:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Voqc1-0000VL-9f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 03:18:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:38278) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Voqc1-0000SZ-1w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 03:18:13 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MXD00G00LLPOY00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 10:18:11 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MXD00G2PLQBCM90@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 10:18:11 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87mwkey18f.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166156 Archived-At: > From: Jambunathan K > Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 11:23:04 +0530 > Cc: Andrew Hyatt , Tom , > emacs-devel , martin rudalics , > Stefan Monnier , > Bozhidar Batsov , Dmitry Gutov > > > Drew Adams writes: > > > 2. Others have countered that an advantage of `blink-matching-paren' > > over `show-paren-mode' is that tells you where the other end is, > > when it is off-window. I agree: `blink-matching-paren' should > > remain on (non-nil) by default. > > > 3. No one (maybe you?) has spoken in favor of the jump-and-blink > > behavior of `blink-matching-paren'. Some have called it annoying. > > But turning on `show-paren-mode' nullifies this behavior, AFAICT. > > It is easy to tell when the other end is out of view. In that case, I > can scroll so that both ends are within the screen. > > Otherwise, I just use C-M-n and C-M-p. I don't need blinking. It works > for me. Can someone please tell me what is this argument about? AFAIR, when you activate show-paren-mode, the jump-and-blink behavior is disabled, so what you get is a highlight of the opposite paren when it is on screen, and an echo area message when it is not. So what is the problem you are arguing about here? What did I miss?